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I know that France had these unique T12 fluorescent bulbs made popular mid-20th century, and they were available usually in 2 foot 20W and 4 foot 40W, single contact R18 socket. There were rapid start with an internal ignition strip. A long time ago, a small local market was renovating and tearing down their lighting. The shop had these old tired 2-lamp fixtures, however, the tubes were about 72 inches long (180cm). I had a 40W version of that fixture, same sockets, same design and all, and I'm pretty sure the ends were for a R18 socket, therefore a TL-S lamp. I never ever heard of a TL-S lamp longer than 4 foot (120cm) at 40W. Is my memory wrong, or did that particular lamp was also made in a 6 foot long version?Note: For those who want to see how they look like, here's a link  |
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Checked a couple Philips catalogs. They only listed TL-S up to 40w. Perhaps the ones you saw were slimline? http://www.lamptech.co.uk/Catalogues.htmPlenty of great literature in the above link. |
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| So that's just it, I thought the same thing, 40W is the max. And you're right, catalogs only list 40W as the largest you can get.
Definitely not a Slimline as it had no brass in a single pin, it was a dark bakelite end where you remove the bulb by turning ¼ turn, just like TL-S. However, you could say that then this likely was an HO RDC lamp, but the tube had an inner ignition strip, and was longer than 4 foot. I remember measuring it totaling at about 180cm or about 72 inches.
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| Were 75w 6' T12 bipin lamps ever used in France by any chance? Or just a British thing?
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| As far as I know the TL-S indeed only existed in 2ft 20W and 4ft 40W. If you remember it having black end caps, I can only wonder if it might have been an HO 110W or VHO 215W tube, but as far as I know Philips only made these in 8ft length and with R17d caps.
Dave - the 6ft tube is an exclusively British thing, even the modern T8 6ft 70W never seemed to take off in other countries.
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| James, we have a small number of 70w 6’ T8s here in the states. Used in refrigeration equipment.
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James, we have a small number of 70w 6’ T8s here in the states. Used in refrigeration equipment.
The same here, I’ve only seen this size in refrigerators. The TL-S and maybe the TL-R format were maybe a thing in the 50s- 60s here but never seen any installed. For the VHO Power Groove it’s different. The 215W size were in the past quite common in Switzerland. |
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As far as I know the TL-S indeed only existed in 2ft 20W and 4ft 40W. If you remember it having black end caps, I can only wonder if it might have been an HO 110W or VHO 215W tube, but as far as I know Philips only made these in 8ft length and with R17d caps.
The thing that bothers me is that I definitely know it was not a bipin prong end (no exposed brass or metal), it had an internal ignition strip. HO or VHO are 8 feet and too long, this was closer to 6 feet. And to remove, it was ¼ turn click, no plungers. Fixture had the sockets in a V config with "Cie Des Lampes" stamped at the end. |
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| Where these lamps were used ?
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I'm hoping to get a few of these lamps soon, I already have the ballast lamps  |
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| Interesting to see them over there, but the shipping costs are too much to get them here. I have found a supplier in France who I hope to get some from in the New Year, will post more details when I have information.
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Interesting to see them over there, but the shipping costs are too much to get them here. I have found a supplier in France who I hope to get some from in the New Year, will post more details when I have information.
Do you have fixtures for them? |
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Do you have fixtures for them?
Unfortunately not, but I remember them from my childhood, a local shop had one in the front window. |
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I regret tossing the 2x40W fixture and bulbs I had at the time. But what the hell did I know, I was 9.  |
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