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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #885 on: December 01, 2021, 08:53:27 PM » Author: Foxtronix
Our house is double cavity brick walls, which would withstand high winds, but it’s British roof’s that would take a beating!
In UK house’s, it’s basically just the weight of the roof tiles over lapping each other that keeps them in place!, are US roof’s similar?

US's (and also Canada's) most popular roofing material is asphalt shingles, and they're nailed to a plywood surface. They can withstand wind to an extent but near-hurricane winds can be sufficient to make them go bye-bye.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #886 on: December 02, 2021, 12:55:49 AM » Author: xmaslightguy
Our house is double cavity brick walls, which would withstand high winds, but it’s British roof’s that would take a beating!
In UK house’s, it’s basically just the weight of the roof tiles over lapping each other that keeps them in place!, are US roof’s similar?
Interesting on the walls! I don't believe that is ever done here. Usually on 'brick houses' its a layer of brick and the standard 2x4 wood-frame wall behind that (the frame wall is the actual structural component)
Do they also run rebar or anything vertically through the bricks? Or any sort of metal/mesh horizontally every so many rows? This - a reinforced brick (or cinderblock) structural wall - if both are done together, is now being done in some parts of the US to offer much better tornado/hurricane resistance).

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As Foxtronix said, the most common these days in US/Canada is asphalt shingles (underneath the shingles there is a layer of tar-paper (and/or for areas like here where you can get real cold in the winter, ice-shield)).
Shingles nailed or stapled to the Plywood/OSB roofing itself, they also stick together with a tar-like substance...so in a way they form their own (for lack of a better term) 'structural integrity' as a solid surface - as long as the 'tar' adhears/sets up properly (cooking under hot summer sun will do that well! winter is deff not the time to do a roof!).
Its actually pretty dang difficult to get a shingle out if you need to replace it (been there done that). The bad thing is if some do come loose - particularly lower on the roof, it compromises the 'structural integrity' by allowing wind to get underneath...once that starts happening, it can essentially start pealing back shingles going up the roof. Get a couple rows gone and it isn't going to take much to strip the roof.

There are various ratings of shingles for hail/wind resistance. (Here for example code requires both a higher wind and hail rating than other locations..at one time it didn't, but after a number of storms they upgraded the codes!)

With tile roofs, I know the tiles are nailed in place, but what I don't know is if they are also somehow "glued" to eachother like the asphalt ones are by being tar'ed together. Or if its like yours where weight/overlap is what helps hold them. Never had the chance to look over a tiled roof up close.


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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #887 on: December 03, 2021, 09:13:01 AM » Author: AngryHorse
Older houses like mine used brick ties, but I think there’s a new way of doing it now?
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #888 on: December 03, 2021, 04:12:51 PM » Author: Bulbman256
Yesterday here in KC a record in 1956 here was smashed, the record for the high temp on december second was 70 degrees, but yesterday it got to around 72-73, was really nice. 8)
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #889 on: December 10, 2021, 05:20:24 PM » Author: suzukir122
Seems like the Stlouis area, where I use to live, is in the bulls eye for very severe storms tonight. (In the red/high risk)
Strong chance of tornadoes as well... in December, during the night. Crazy. Night time tornaodes... not a good thing.
Dayton Ohio is in the yellow, so Ohio is not out of the woods either.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #890 on: December 11, 2021, 12:08:18 PM » Author: xmaslightguy
Well that SPC outlook they posted for yesterday(last night in particular) certainly did verify. Big time. :o

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Crazy. Night time tornaodes... not a good thing. 
I don't think anyone could have picked better words for that storm system ...
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #891 on: December 11, 2021, 12:17:28 PM » Author: suzukir122
@Xmaslightguy... I know! Perfect words! And as I expected, many people died. Specifically in a storm I managed to capture many screenshots of, in Kentucky.
I just weightlifted, so now I'm grabbing food to eat. After that, I'll upload those screenshots here! Classic Supercell Thunderstorms. (CST)
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #892 on: December 11, 2021, 02:26:54 PM » Author: suzukir122
Ehh, I tried uploading the screenshot here but the file is too large.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #893 on: December 11, 2021, 02:40:52 PM » Author: Econolite03
I heard about the recent tornado on the news. Nighttime tornadoes are absolutely terrifying because it’s more difficult to spot a funnel.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #894 on: December 12, 2021, 12:09:55 PM » Author: AngryHorse
It’s gone strangely warm again here!, but that’s bringing rain, I’d rather it snow again though!  8)
Yeah, I bet night tornado’s are terrifying! , you can’t tell which way their going  :poof:
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #895 on: December 12, 2021, 01:12:04 PM » Author: suzukir122
@Angryhorse, and most people are either asleep, or they just don't expect it. Tornadoes, from what I understand, hit two warehouses, one of them being
a massive warehouse (Amazon) in two separate states. Completely destroyed that strong warehouse. Not even sure that was an F5, F4, or even F3 tornado.
I'd be highly surprised if it were an F5, as an F5 would probably do much worse.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #896 on: December 12, 2021, 01:38:34 PM » Author: AngryHorse
Yeah, I saw the Amazon one on Fox News, there was too much of the building left standing for it to have been an F5  :o
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #897 on: December 13, 2021, 02:00:30 AM » Author: suzukir122
@Angryhorse, yep, that's what I'm thinking. I really hope that there will be no more night time tornadoes. More mild temps are on the way
for us on Wednesday, mid December. This is crazy to me.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #898 on: December 13, 2021, 02:32:42 AM » Author: Econolite03
Supposedly the one that hit Mayfield, KY was a F3, but the damage suggests it could have been stronger. It’s pretty sad.
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Re: Severe weather never sleeps! « Reply #899 on: December 13, 2021, 02:46:45 AM » Author: suzukir122
@Econolite03, that's the one I took screenshots of on radar, as it was happening. The storm looked impressive on radar, but I can't upload those
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