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my old streetlight has a mogul base in it im just trying to find what type of bulb it whold have used the pics of it are in my album a few people think its a old ge form 79 ? so any help whould be greatly app thank u for anyhelp .
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Hi Prawnman88, your Form 79 with the mogul socket tells me it is a 295 watt, 4000 lumen unit. 4000 nominal lumen multiple lamps come in 295 or 327 watt, depending on the life hours. I am not presently aware of any source where you can get a 295 or a 327 watt lamp, but you can use an ordinary clear 300 watt mogul based lamp. The glass shape, filament shape (horizontally mounted C shaped ring filament with 3 supports), and length are exactly the same as the 295/327 watt lamps so you'll still get the correct optics from your Form 79. Electrical stores should the clear mogul based 300 watt bulbs. I know the local one in my area does, they also carry 500 watt incandescents. Hope this helps!
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Strange wattages (295 and 327). Was that common in the past?
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yes it does thank u have idea what year my lights from ? is the big question must have been neat back in the day to see 300 watt /500 lighting up everything at night
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Dave (Silverliner) told me that your Form 79 is from the 1940s to 1950s...
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It's also possible that your form 79 used series incandescent lamps rather than multiple. The differences between the series and multiple are:
1) the filament is a CC-2V filament rather than the CC-8 of the multiple.
2) series lamps cannot poerate on standard current, and are rated at lumens.
I believe you can operate either on that socket, though.
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ok kool thx for the info u have to love the old stuff u know atleast i do
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oh yeah! I love old stuff!!!! they should be respected!
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Yep the US special street lighting lamps had odd wattages so they can provide the fixed lumen ratings.
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Here in northeast PA, we used medium based 58w, 103w, 189w and 202w. Mogul based lamps were 327w, 448w and one bigger one that escapes me right now. All to get the rated lumens, as mentioned before. Also, all the series streetlighting used mogul based lamps rated by amps I believe, and 6.6 was the common one I think.
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You meant 620w and 860w, these were the two highest wattages in multiple street lighting lamps. You are right the 6.6 amp series lamps are the most common, 15 and 20 amp series incandescent lamps were available in the past as well. In the Los Angeles area there are still thousands of 6.6 amp series incandescent street lights in use, as well as series mercury and HPS cobraheads, often shared with the incandescents on the same circuits. Here in northeast PA, we used medium based 58w, 103w, 189w and 202w. Mogul based lamps were 327w, 448w and one bigger one that escapes me right now. All to get the rated lumens, as mentioned before. Also, all the series streetlighting used mogul based lamps rated by amps I believe, and 6.6 was the common one I think.
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Thanks Silverliner! Yes, it was the 620. We didn't use the 860 anywhere in our area that I'm aware of. Meaning, at least of all the fixtures in our scrapheap, and in our new lamps in the storerooms, never saw an 860. Which may be odd, since on big main streets in bigger towns, you'd think there would be a need.
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I looked at a 1990 G.E. "Lamp technical guide" recently and the listings for "Multiple street lighting" were: ( in order ascending watts and life) 92/103/105,1000Lnom,189/202/205,2500Lnom,295/327,4000Lnom,405/448, 6000Lnom and 620/690,10,000Lnom. Sylvania had more offerings including 32watt,58watt (Still available)and I think something around 76, 800 lumens.At that point in time i guess the largest ones above 10,000L had been de-listed.
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When I was growing up in deepest, darkest Essex in the late 50's/early 60's, we had 500W incandescents in our street. Don't really recall much about them other than that as they were swapped for MV's when I was about 5 or 6. They sparked my interest in lighting, though
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In deepest, darkest eastern Germany a few streets kept their incandescent lights well into the 80s. Looked like 100 watts. You can imagine the lighting level.
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