The maintenance of Carmel hospital, installed a new Gaash Mars 10 with a CFL « on: December 30, 2012, 05:37:54 AM » Author: dor123
Horrible story in the storage of Carmel hospital, that couldn't be photographed, as my camera is in repairing: I've seen one of maintenance persons of Carmel hospital, came to the storage with a local made Gaash Mars 10 lantern (Called BJC Vialux in Europe and France). The lantern was unusually light for its size and it was very easy to me to lift it, making the indication, that there is no control gear in it. After I asked him, if this lantern is for new installation (And he answered "Yes"), I shocked to see that he ask for an OSRAM DULUXSTAR 23W/865 ENERGY SAVING CFL, for installation inside the lantern! (Road lantern for path lighting) I agrued him, that this lamp isn't intended for use with road/street/path lanterns, but ONLY as a retrofit for incandescent lamps in open incandescent fixtures, and he said me that they don't needs many light in the area, where the lantern is located. So I agrued him that this lantern is ONLY for HID lamps, and that they can install a 70W MH lamp inside it, if they wants a little white light, better energy saving and a logner lamp life, but he said that the ballast is very heavy and big! (A magnetic ballast for 70-150W HPS/MH lamps?) What a stupid maintenance, thinking that CFL is a lamp of choice and installing it as an alternative to MV and MH lamps.
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	Re: The maintenance of Carmel hospital, installed a new Gaash Mars 10 with a CFL « Reply #1 on: December 30, 2012, 07:53:02 PM » Author: lantern_vision
But think it that way, he might not be the one to decide what to use. His boss or who ever should be warned about such wrong installations.
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	Re: The maintenance of Carmel hospital, installed a new Gaash Mars 10 with a CFL « Reply #2 on: December 31, 2012, 12:09:30 AM » Author: dor123
L_V: I think that the maintenance decides which lamp to install, and that that maintenance person decided to put a CFL inside a lantern was his and the rest maintenance decision. It was also his decision to order a Gaash Mars 10 instead of a 2x18W TC-L or 2x10-18W TC-D wallpack, if the lantern was planned to be mounted on the building and not on a pole, and even if a 70W MH lamp is too strong for them (We have no HPS and E27 MH lamps less than 70W in Israel).
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	Re: The maintenance of Carmel hospital, installed a new Gaash Mars 10 with a CFL « Reply #4 on: January 01, 2013, 05:23:12 AM » Author: dor123
There is no option to install two 11W TC-S lamps inside the Mars 10, as this requires modding of the lantern to have two lamp sockets, and this lanterns have a single socket as a standard. With 18W TC-L/TC-D, all that is need is to replace the lamp socket, and to install a 18W T8/TC-D ballast (I even don't sure that the TC-L socket, is suitable for the size of the hole for the socket).
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	Re: The maintenance of Carmel hospital, installed a new Gaash Mars 10 with a CFL « Reply #6 on: January 01, 2013, 12:21:58 PM » Author: dor123
I have seen a hole in the area where the socket located behind it. If the TCL socket is larger than that hole, the socket of a TCL lamp wouldn't be able to be inserted through it.
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