Another interesting article from Randy Reid!

https://edisonreport.com/2025/01/21/president-removes-ban-incandescent-bulbs/

But I am afraid it will make no difference since as far as I am aware, the previous administration succeeded to force every single traditional lamp factory in America to close down, put all those people out of work, and destroyed the essential infrastructure for the raw materials supply chain.  I cannot see anyone investing in building up again an industry that took half a century to finance, it seems not to be economically viable.  Probably some smart investors will import cheap incandescents from another part of the world where they have so far escaped the bans.

They didnt ban all the bulbs

Just the higher wattage ones

How different is a 25W lava lamp apliance bulb from a 100W one, exept 100W one has thicker thungston and different shape

They’ll probably be imported from overseas, like almost everything is nowadays.

I wonder if that means 100 W and 150 W 3 way bulbs may make a comeback? 🤔

Wow!! I hope I can buy Sylvania Double Life 100w lamps in stores soon as they are what I use in my lamp (which has been passed down through generations of the family)!

Its interesting that biden and trump are similar age, but biden has souch a different opinion about incondecent lightbulb

I would understand some yungster fresh from colleage banning them, since he doesnt understand them, and never used them. But biden, who spend a good part of his life sorounded by incondecent bulbs

Very strange

I do hope this will stick now. The last thing I want is some new candidate banning them again after 4years when trump will not be president anymore

For various reasons I wouldn't get my hopes up.  As James stated from the outset, manufacturers are not going to rebuild domestic supply chains for incandescent lamps.  It's simply not viable.

Also critically, this executive order does not rescind the regulations.  Read the full text.  No bans were lifted.  What it does is instruct federal agencies to take steps to reduce the burden of regulations concerning the aforementioned categories, including lighting.  It is merely directing the Department of Energy to take a look at the matter and see what they can do.

What they can do might turn out to be very little.  Neither the president nor the DOE and other applicable agencies can change the law.  They can adjust rules and regulations within the confines of law, and they can choose to be lenient regarding enforcement, but changing the law requires an act of congress.  While many look back how the last couple administrations either tightened or relaxed lighting regulations, those were largely tweaks around the edges.  The phaseout of incandescent lamps was set in motion all the way back in 2007 with the Energy Independence and Security Act, passed by congress with bipartisan support and signed by then president Bush.  To fully repeal it would require congress to pass a new law.  Although this congress might have a greater appetite for deregulation, I'm not holding my breath.

I don't want to discuss any political opinions due to it being against the site rules. I also think that just because incandescent lamps are unbanned they won't become widespread again and likely won't have any large manufacture runs in the USA. They simply aren't practical for the average person, for cost of electricity and also likely initial purchase price. I also don't expect there to be many new fixtures intended for incandescent use.

Unfortunately companies aren't going to spend the time and effort to rebuild the supply chain for local incandescent lamp production anyway, maybe if something like this happened 10 years ago, it would have prevent some of the plants from shutting down. I'm not even sure the the banned wattages will even make a comeback.

You can see the same thing happening with HID and fluorescent production, the demand and looming bans meant the local fluorescent and HID production pretty much shut down as well.

As for the fixtures, I could see the basic incandescent fixtures still being made but intended for LED lamps. Even with fluorescent fixtures, some of the old fluorescent designs are still made but intended for use with LED tubes now.

That said, I'm guessing the higher end incandescent fixtures are probably no longer made, but that was the case for a lot of commercial incandescent fixtures after fluorescent lighting took off (eg saturn lights, high wattage commerical incandescent fixtures etc).

No offense to anyone, but this is because Biden is a democrat. Democrats think that incandescent lamps are bad for the environment and could care less about freedom.

I dont care, who is what, those who bring my lightbulbs  back, those are ones I like

I agree the chances that domestically made incandescent lamps making a comeback is near zero.  Even imported lamps under major brands will probably not return without a full repeal of the relevant law, which as I noted has not happened and is not likely too.  We might see a slight uptick in the availability of quasi-legal incandescent lamps from Asia, but I wonder how much of a market there even is at this point given the success of LED.  Not to get too into the politics of it, but I think many folks give too much credit or place too much blame on the president.  Had we had a different president or party in power these past four years, it's possible some lamps that disappeared would still be on the market, but the big picture wouldn't have changed.  Also if you remember the legislature did temporarily suspend enforcement by blocking spending at a couple points in the past, and manufacturers did not put banned lamps back on the market during those periods.

I did read some people say, how hard would be to make incondecent lightbulbs since manufacterers had to destroy their tools

But, the bulb itself is still being made, it just has a resistor and filament leds inside now

Also frosted versions as well

And lower wattages also are still made, so tungston is still produced I guess, so higher wattages just means thicker thungston

At the end I dont realy care, if the bulb is domestic or from china, since incondecent lightbulb is so simple, even chinese cant (... the word that means making something worse ...) up (no flickering, no rf interference to worry about)

The onlything that this ban did (besides destroying a whole industry) was that it was harder to aquire them (import them (I heard amazon wont ship to states that had the ban inplace and stuff like that)

So I am still happy (even if sadly I will not be able to take advantage of this, since I am in EU...)

I dont care, who is what, those who bring my lightbulbs  back, those are ones I like

Perhaps use those lights to shine a light on the abhorrent acts the glorious leader is proposing to do, and already has done.

Signed,

A homosexual with a whole lot of american gay and transgender friends who are going through a much worse time than anyone who can't buy light bulbs in shops anymore could ever have.
"But he brought the glowy bulb back" My god, do you have any idea how incredibly bad and physically threathening the current situation is?!

I'm looking in from the outside, and i'm seeing so, SO much. I am not kidding when i say that the USA is back in the 1930s, just waiting for the new German-American Bund to get started up.

I doubt the production would ever go beyond very small quantities. It was dying even before its ban, the ban just sped the things up a bit.
the thing is, incandescents, mainly produced in the "west", won't generate that much margin to make anyone go into the incandescent manufacture business en masse, unless the retail price would really return where it was at least half century ago, corrected for inflation. So we are talking about quite a few $ per single bulb, I do not see that much people buying them for that, when for the same you may buy way more efficient LEDs. I don't think anyone would be willing to return to the price wars which brought back the incandescent prices so ridiculously low just before the bans, don't forget the companies were already on the way out of their production, just playing the "don't be the first one" game...

So if any bulbs pop up, it would be cheepeese import with very questionable quality.
Or it will really become just very low volume niche, supplied by quality makers even when maintaining the bulb price high enough to be profitable and be purchased only by those who really want the incandescents and are willing to really pay extra for it.

I would like to see the later, but knowing how the society works, unfortunately the first seems to be more likely.

Perhaps use those lights to shine a light on the abhorrent acts the glorious leader is proposing to do, and already has done.

Signed,

A homosexual with a whole lot of american gay and transgender friends who are going through a much worse time than anyone who can't buy light bulbs in shops anymore could ever have.
"But he brought the glowy bulb back" My god, do you have any idea how incredibly bad and physically threathening the current situation is?!

I'm looking in from the outside, and i'm seeing so, SO much. I am not kidding when i say that the USA is back in the 1930s, just waiting for the new German-American Bund to get started up.

Just change the slogan to something u like then, cigarettes maybe and u get different president

The fact is that, everyone will have something they hate about the new guy

You, dont like his reforms about certain people, just like I didnt like bidens reforms about banning the lightbulb and ICE cars, etc, yes, lightbulbs might not be as big of a problem, as problems u are describing, but they still are problems for some people, even if they are insignificant for u

But I didnt complain, when u got ur reforms

At least we get something usefull (incondecent lightbulbs) (if it will be effective, we will see, but at least he tried)