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Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « on: January 03, 2025, 08:53:59 AM » Author: dor123
I had a green laser pointer, which failed in the last days. It behaves as if the batteries are weak, even with new batteries.
Why this is happening?
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #1 on: January 03, 2025, 09:51:29 AM » Author: RRK
Because they are significantly more complicated with two-stage frequency conversion. Also, main laser diode runs at *much* higher output power - up to 1W compared to ~10mW of a common red pointer.
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #2 on: January 04, 2025, 02:25:52 PM » Author: LightsAreBright27
Same for me, green lasers are very unreliable. One died just because it was next to the car AC for too long. One died from a simple drop on carpet (I've since converted that to an infrared laser). Also, about the pump diode in green lasers, my 100mw green laser actually had an above 500mw infrared pump diode.

DPSS lasers have wavelength changing crystals, which need specific conditions to work properly. They need the correct temperature, input power (from pump diode) and much more.

Direct diode lasers, like red, blue, violet or even the IR diode in a green laser, can sustain more shaking, colder temperature and lower batteries.

Here is a picture of two green lasers, one without the crystals. You can see the infrared light as a purple like colour.

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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #3 on: January 05, 2025, 03:38:20 AM » Author: dor123
Direct diode green lasers are already exists. Why I can't see them in Aliexpress?
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #4 on: January 05, 2025, 09:16:05 AM » Author: RRK
You are not searching hard enough, or Aliexpress does not like to list them in Israel region.

After 5 munutes of googling -


These are explicitly listed as direct, though pricey: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001315092616.html


these are probably direct, too? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005005495558678.html 
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #5 on: January 05, 2025, 09:22:30 AM » Author: RRK
These are 100% direct ones, sure https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005008288807250.html

Likely, PLT5 originating from Osram Opto Semi

Search for 520nm green laser to dig some more.

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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #6 on: January 05, 2025, 09:27:20 AM » Author: dor123
I'm searching laser pointers like this one , which are direct green laser diode. But these always available only as DPSS green lasers. Only the red and the violet are laser diodes.
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #7 on: January 05, 2025, 10:00:36 AM » Author: RRK
So what's the problem? Searching Ali for "green laser pointer 520nm" reveals some of them that looks direct, too.
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #8 on: January 05, 2025, 10:10:48 AM » Author: dor123
But this is way more expensive than DPSS laser pointer. Green DPSS laser pointer costs few shekels while direct green laser diode pointer costs in the tens of shekels.
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #9 on: January 05, 2025, 10:14:11 AM » Author: RRK
*But* you are manipulating.

You asked for direct green pointers, here they are on Aliexpress.
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Re: Why DPSS lasers are less reliable than direct diode lasers? « Reply #10 on: January 05, 2025, 12:24:18 PM » Author: LightsAreBright27
@dor123 You can either buy a better quality green DPSS, or buy a more expensive 520nm diode laser. A good quality laser 303 does the trick, mine has lasted for 7 years now. Search "Laser 303" or "Laser 301" and the first few results are green dpss.
Also, I never trust those pen shaped lasers, they are only good for a toy, and live shorter than a year.
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