Milwaukeeman2003
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| As of today, I just found that the RMA no longer appears in Cooper’s website, so that means it’s probably been discontinued.
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| The two left are the floodlights. CFB and GPF. Eventually, those will be discontinued as well.
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| Curious if the NEMA style bucket attachments from the RMA independently will still be sold since IIRC Cooper’s LED area offering is supposed to accept them assuming spec of certain customers.
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The two left are the floodlights. CFB and GPF. Eventually, those will be discontinued as well.
Cooper also still makes the WR Warrior and the NK Nighthawk III. |
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Curious if the NEMA style bucket attachments from the RMA independently will still be sold since IIRC Cooper’s LED area offering is supposed to accept them assuming spec of certain customers.
Hmm I wonder that too, there used to be some sold on the Econolight site for those Cree fixtures with the ears for them. But they don’t have them anymore. |
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| I don't know very much about streetlights; Is the Cooper RMA and the Westinghouse RMA related?
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| Yes, the Cooper RMA is the same thing as the Westinghouse, they got it when Cooper bought out Westinghouse streetlight division.
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| I have a friend who works for Cooper Lighting. Technically all of their HID fixtures are discontinued. They are just slow to get them all removed from the website. So any HID's that are currently still listed on the website are also discontinued. However, Cooper is still manufacturing HID lights for large customers as special order. So while they are all "discontinued" for ordering for the general public, they are not discontinued for large customers. If you wanted to place an order for a large quantity of fixtures they would likely still make them for you. I have asked my contact who works there about this for myself.
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| Ah okay-
That is a shame, the RMA is one of my favorite NEMA heads...
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| Interesting, I guess they still have the tooling to make them but not enough demand for them to make and store them in commonly ordered "ready to ship" configs like how they used to.
I wonder who these large customers are, Toronto already gave up on installing new HID lights, they kinda stopped new installs and spot replacements at around the same time, in late fall of 2023.
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| I don't know who the customers are but apparently they still sell enough HID fixtures to justify continuing to manufacture them. However from what I was told they are not going to repair or replace any tooling if it breaks. So they are continuing to manufacture them for a little bit longer but as soon as any tooling breaks it's game over. Or if parts they need to assemble the fixtures becomes unavailable that will also halt production.
I've pretty much fully accepted LED lights at this point. They aren't going anywhere and all of the manufacturers have discontinued HID except Cooper for the time being. So all we can do is just try to save as many HID lights that we can. Sitting around being sad that HID lights are gone isn't going to save anything. That's why I'm thousands of dollars in debt from my efforts to save vintage HID street lights I jump on things instead of sitting around sulking about it all day. Yeah I'm in debt but the lights are here and safe and sound in my possession. I can fix the money situation later.
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| Well, Cooper isn’t the last manufacturer to still make HID luminaries, Sentry Electric still makes them, and Lumec still makes the Helios. But I am surprised that Cooper is doing so for large customers only, unlike American Electric and General Electric which stopped making HID completely, with General Electric doing so in 2021 and American Electric in 2023.
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| I know some utility in the northeast still uses Cooper HPS cobras for replacements.
Nobody around here, as Duke went LED only for replacements around early 2020, and GEC started installing LED only around at least 2016, if not earlier.
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| In my area, WE energies started using installing LED in 2019-2020 as spot replacements as the lamps fail in existing fixtures. Another major utility company in my state, Alliant Energy, has been doing the same thing since at least 2016.
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