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4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « on: July 08, 2023, 11:24:16 PM » Author: suzukir122
Seems like the 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-tech Quartz Metal Halides are all warm white. I'm not entirely sure.
Does anybody know of *Sylvania* 50w Quartz Metal Halide lamps that are 4000k?
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #1 on: July 09, 2023, 12:02:40 AM » Author: wide-lite 1000
That's odd !!! I just looked and sure enough , all of the Sylvanias are listed as 3,000k !  No idea why !
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #2 on: July 09, 2023, 12:13:24 AM » Author: suzukir122
I'm not sure why either. I bought three more and installed them all... and all of them appear to be warm white. It looks okay, but that's
generally not the color I'm shooting for.
The original one that I bought back in May doesn't appear to be warm colored as the ones I just bought, though... so I wonder if this is because
they're new?
Then again, I do see indication from the arc tubes... it's possible the seller gave me used lamps, that had been operating horizontally.
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #3 on: July 09, 2023, 08:40:49 AM » Author: sol
I have a Sylvania PB 4000K in 70W and I believe that is the lowest wattage available. Lower wattages are all 3000K. I'm not sure if the mini ones (G12 and G8.5 and the like) are available in 4000K, however. I also believe all 100 W and under quartz MH that Sylvania offers are mostly 3000K.

That being said, there is something magical that 4000K metal halide offers that other technologies don't... (not even good ol' fluorescent)
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #4 on: July 09, 2023, 10:12:50 PM » Author: joseph_125
Yeah I wonder why they don't have 4000K available. If you want 4000K in 50w, I think the Philips CMH lamps are a good choice, they also have higher CRI so it looks pretty crisp compared to quartz lamps.
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #5 on: July 09, 2023, 10:17:33 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
 I'm currently running one of the coated 4k philips lamps in the RAB Area Light JR in the back yard .
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #6 on: July 09, 2023, 10:25:19 PM » Author: suzukir122
Yep the Philips CMH I have, I decided to take out. It looks nice, but I want to save that lamp for something else I've been thinking about.
Same with the GE QMH I have, which was the 2nd best in terms of color, and the best in terms of fastest warm up time, by far.
The Sylvania lamps look to have been used, with obvious burn marks on the arc tube, making me think the previous owner used them, and used
them horizontally. He also claimed them to be new, if I remember correctly.
But yeah, lumen output is also not the greatest with those WW QMH Sylvanias. It's not terrible, at all, but doesn't seem as bright as the
4000k QMH.
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #7 on: July 09, 2023, 11:42:42 PM » Author: suzukir122
Hey... what about this one on Ebay?
https://rb.gy/xyn41  << (Link to Ebay page. I'm still learning how to shorten URL's.)
That seller put "4000" in his product title... I assume he's saying this lamp is 4000k?
I also don't know if this lamp is compatible with my wallpacks or not.  :'-)
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #8 on: July 09, 2023, 11:48:25 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
 As long as it says "M110" It is compatible !  What color temp it is is anyone's guess ! Try offering them $10 and see what happens !!
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #9 on: July 10, 2023, 12:24:25 AM » Author: joseph_125
Might be worth grabbing as a spare if you can get it cheaply. I got some from a Restore.

BTW, for eBay URLs, you can shorten them easily by deleting anything after the item number. Most of the "junk" after is for tracking, etc

https://www.ebay.com/itm/314696981708
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #10 on: July 10, 2023, 02:01:02 AM » Author: suzukir122
@Joseph_125, what color is yours? Is it 4000k like that seller claimed? Also, thanks for the info on how to shorten the URL!
I went ahead and bought two more of the other Sylvania lamps, from Ebay. I've decided to go ahead and complete the warm white look... for now.
(All 6 fixtures will have those Warm White Sylvania lamps.)
If I do find Sylvania 50w Metal Halides that are higher color temperature, I'll uninstall those Sylvanias I just bought, and sell them all,
or most of them. (Might end up keeping some just for spare lamps.)
@Wide-Lite 1000, thanks. I'm still learning about the details regarding Metal Halide lamps. M110 being compatible helps me out significantly.
I wonder if Sylvania made knock off Metal Halide 50w lamps for other brands, that are 4000k? Or if there are other brands that use similar
arc tubes/explosion protection similar to Sylvania's? That arc tube and that protection around it is one of the primary reasons why I want
to use those Sylvanias the most, besides the slower warm up time, and the orange flashes, which I personally like a lot.

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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #11 on: July 10, 2023, 07:20:08 AM » Author: sol
@suzukir122 : I feel your pain in knowing what to order. As much as I like low wattage CMH lamps, I sometimes find it impossible to know the colour temperature by looking at the package or the lamp etch. Not mentioned anywhere ! The only way I can find some models is looking at a reference such as a catalogue or 1000bulbs.com (Sylvania, I'm especially looking at you !).
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #12 on: July 10, 2023, 07:27:35 AM » Author: suzukir122
And what makes matters worse is when the non lighting enthusiast sellers on Ebay, randomly throw a color temperature number out as
part of their product title. I'm not sure if that's what the seller I linked to did, but if so, that kind of stuff throws me off significantly
regarding the CMH and QMH.
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #13 on: July 10, 2023, 07:31:48 AM » Author: sol
Ah yes, the "mercury vapour metal halide high pressure sodium lamps" that some sellers list... Just throw all the terms in there and let the buyer figure it out ! Oh, and they are "seller refurbished", whatever that means...
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Re: 4000k 50w Sylvania Metalarc Pro-Tech... do they exist? « Reply #14 on: July 10, 2023, 07:39:42 AM » Author: suzukir122
 :'-) :'-) Exactly! All for 450 dollars, monthly payment option included.
Those kind of sellers are the kind I typically avoid like the plague. lol Even though all my fixtures will have those Warm White 50w Sylvania QMH lamps,
the journey isn't over. I'm hoping to find 4000k versions of those Sylvania lamps, even if they're from different brands.
Hopefully from a credible Ebay seller though.  :lol:
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