How Much Is Too Much? « on: March 24, 2022, 02:20:57 PM » Author: suzukir122
Ok so... I've got a possible incoming lighting plan for my living room. Right now I use four Sadlite desk lamps. Three of them contain two PL-L 36w lamps, running on magnetic PL-L Rapid Start ballasts that are HPF. The fourth one contains two PL-L 18w lamps, running on two separate HPF Rapid Start ballasts rated for 18w PL-L lamps. I also have a 9w screw in adapter, screwed into a table lamp downstairs. That one is preheat. These are all running on one switch near the front door. That switch powers a plug outlet... and using that plug outlet, I managed to create a chain of cords leading to power strips, for me to plug in each desk lamp. Two desk lamps downstairs, and two desk lamps upstairs in my loft... all used as uplighting. Now... for my next plan, I'd be purchasing seven F30T12 two lamp strip fixtures, all of which would be put on shelves and used as uplighting. Three F30T12 fixtures for my downstairs living room, and four F30T12 fixtures for my loft. My question is... how much is too much? In other words, would I have to worry about the circuit breaker trippin? Would I have to worry about possible catastrophic proof that this is a bad idea? Or should that plug outlet be able to handle seven F30T12 fixtures running on it with no problem?
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	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #3 on: March 24, 2022, 04:41:51 PM » Author: suzukir122
@Rommie, that's what I've been thinking. So far, I'm using five extension cords total with four of them being single outlet cords. Three of them are 15ft cords. This set up, at least with these PL-L desk lamps, has worked *so far* for the last three years since I've been here. So far... @Sol, yeah, seven two lamp F30T12 fixtures would be it for me. I wouldn't add anything else to that circuit. I'm wanting to also reduce the amount of extension cords for this plan as well, if I follow through with it. There is a possibility that I might reduce the fixtures down to F20T12 fixtures, or maybe find energy saver versions of the F30T12s...? Could this be a possible solution? Maybe go with T8 3 footers instead with electronic ballasts?
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1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #4 on: March 26, 2022, 05:57:44 PM » Author: suzukir122
I'm gonna find alternatives to my new plan in an effort to reduce the load of electricity to that single plug outlet. One alternative is purchasing single lamp 30w strips and installing full powered single lamp HPF R.S ballasts rated for F30T12's. << Now THAT should be tough to find online. Especially the fixtures. But I want to keep the look of 3 fixtures downstairs and 4 fixtures upstairs, all in tandem with one another.
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Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #6 on: March 26, 2022, 06:33:52 PM » Author: suzukir122
@Rommie,    that sounds like an awesome plan... it really does! But that's out of my forte, unfortunately. I don't know how to set up something like that, nor do I know whether I'm allowed to do such a thing at this apartment. Now... if I found a way to do that safely, or if there were a easy video tutorial on how to do it, this is something I might possibly look into. Especially if I could safely run 7 two lamp F30T12 strips remotely, starting them up all at the same time.
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Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #7 on: March 26, 2022, 07:02:11 PM » Author: suzukir122
... @Rommie, you might've sparked another possible idea. If it were possible for me to find some sort of plug-in "power outlets" that can be activated by a single remote, this may help me significantly, and the power to the fixtures would be from different plug outlets instead of one single outlet. I don't know of such device, but... if anyone knows of plug in outlets that can be activated by a remote, let me know. It sounds stupid... but.... it just might work. I've got tons of plug outlets in my apartment, especially in the loft, that have no use to me right now.
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Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #10 on: March 26, 2022, 08:19:18 PM » Author: suzukir122
@Rommie, @Joseph_125, so I could buy remote controlled plug outlets, and activate all of them through one single remote? If this is really the case, the seven two lamp F30T12 fixture idea just might be back in order...
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Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #12 on: March 27, 2022, 12:52:59 AM » Author: suzukir122
Yeah that's something I forgot to clarify... any dimming circuits or dimming programmed plug outlets, etc... all things I'll be avoiding. But yeah... I think pics or maybe even videos of these plug in remote controlled outlets, modules, etc, would help me significantly, since I don't know what to buy, or what to trust.
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Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

	Re: How Much Is Too Much? « Reply #14 on: March 27, 2022, 03:01:18 AM » Author: suzukir122
@Joseph_125, yeah with my idea involving the remote controlled outlets (although I'm also gonna keep the smart home idea in mind as well) there shouldn't be extreme amounts of amp loads used in any of those outlets, since I'll be using separate wall outlets for each portable plug in. From what I can see, all I would need is three or four portable plug outlets, and one remote control that activates all of those portable outlets. I have two wall outlets downstairs, and two in my loft that could be used easily for this idea. So far the best thing I've found online in terms of what I'm looking for, is the "Indoor Wireless Remote System 3 PC." I think that remote can turn off or on all three of those portable outlets at the same time.
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Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend