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Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « on: April 24, 2021, 04:38:52 AM » Author: OgreVorbis
Why does this not exist? I would think instead of going to metal halide, it would have been easier to use sodium and mercury together in more equal amounts to produce a much whiter light. Has anyone run a mercury and sodium right next to each other? Did it look good?
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2021, 06:53:12 AM » Author: sol
I've seen some gymnasiums that had dual fixtures, one being /DX mercury and the other HPS. Made pleasing light, although the most common configuration was /DX mercury and incandescent.
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #2 on: April 24, 2021, 07:17:12 AM » Author: Olav
Hello OgreVorbis,

some manufacturers have made this combinated types.
In the 50s and 60s very popular lantern in Germany: "the chinese-hat" (Chinesenhut).



The picture above shows two mv-ballasts and two autoleak-transformers



Biggest version was made with 4 lamps mv 250W and 4 lamps lps 140W.


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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #3 on: April 24, 2021, 09:46:23 PM » Author: Joe Maurath, Jr.
I have seen a couple outdoor installations with a clear MV in one floodlight and a HPS of similar lumens next to it (both aimed at a building, etc.) and I must say the combined effect of the blue from the MV and yellow from the HPS make for a very nice looking contrasting effect.  :mv: :hps:
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2021, 10:40:06 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
I saw a Wide-Lite brochure on eBay recently where they actually showed an installation of both MV and HPS used to light the exterior of a building .  https://www.ebay.com/itm/264650627708 
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2021, 12:25:35 AM » Author: joseph_125
I recall seeing an old brochure for those dual lamp highbays suggesting one be MV and the other be HPS as a cheap way to improve colour rendering. Even during the 70s, there was a suggestion to relamp 2x400w MV highbays with a lead-lag ballast to HPS on the lag side for the same reason.

Of interest, I believe Eye made a combined HPS and MH lamp with the arctubes in series for horticultural lighting. 
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #6 on: April 25, 2021, 12:43:36 AM » Author: wide-lite 1000
I've seen the dual tube lamps on LG before . Wide-lite did make a high bay with both HPS and MH lamps .
https://www.scribd.com/document/468247208/Wide-Lite-IL-Dual-Lamp-Series-Bulletin-1986
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #7 on: April 25, 2021, 12:43:57 AM » Author: tolivac
With various types of metal halide lighting wouldn't think a "combo" light would be necessary.Eye still makes the combo HPS MH lamps.Still listed in their catalogs.Also with the "white" light HPS lamps from GE and Philips,Eye the mercury/HPS light wouldn't be required.
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #8 on: April 26, 2021, 04:09:57 AM » Author: Olav
Hello OgreVorbis,

here is another example from PHILIPS with combinated mv lamp and sox lamp, the type NVF N 625 and NVF N 625 :


Source: PHOZAGORA


Source: PHILIPS éclairage, barème 1969 - édition mars


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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #9 on: April 26, 2021, 11:27:16 AM » Author: Joe Maurath, Jr.
Looks simple enough to make one of these (which I have never seen before!).   :lps: :mvc:
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Re: Mercury and Sodium combined lamp - why not? « Reply #10 on: April 26, 2021, 11:32:11 AM » Author: dor123
The use of both MV and LPS in the same lantern, is to save energy by turning off the mercury lamp at midnight. If you want white light from this combination, than only HPS and MV.
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