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Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « on: November 18, 2020, 12:52:24 AM » Author: HPS_250
Here it is. This is a very nice fixture, but does it contain asbestos wiring insulation? See the fifth photo where you can see some wiring for the power connection.

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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #1 on: November 18, 2020, 12:57:17 AM » Author: joseph_125
I think fibreglass would be more a likely material for that sleeve. It seems too new (1980s) to have used asbestos wiring.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #2 on: November 18, 2020, 12:59:32 AM » Author: HPS_250
I think fibreglass would be more a likely material for that sleeve. It seems too new (1980s) to have used asbestos wiring.


Thank you for confirming, I have been wanting to get one of these for a while but was worried. If this is from the 1980s I am fine.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #3 on: November 18, 2020, 01:02:44 AM » Author: HPS_250
Can we be 100 percent sure that this has fiberglass insulation? I just don’t want to risk it for one fixture.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #4 on: November 18, 2020, 09:11:25 AM » Author: Binarix128
It looks older than the 80's to me. I wouldn't risk myself for that fixture.  :-\
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #5 on: November 18, 2020, 01:39:26 PM » Author: WestinghouseCeramalux
From what I can see from the pictures, so long as the insulation isn't damaged it will probably be okay. :wndr:
That is if it is Asbestos.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #6 on: November 18, 2020, 02:02:13 PM » Author: WestinghouseCeramalux
I wanna say that this is from the 1980's...but in the 1980's, HPS retrofits like this were the rage...so who knows?
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #7 on: November 18, 2020, 02:19:40 PM » Author: HPS_250
It could be 1980s, or it could be older. Unless I am completely sure that there is no asbestos, I have decided not to buy this.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #8 on: November 18, 2020, 10:40:56 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
OK , 1st , the spec sheet included with the fixture lists a 35w HPS option . By looking through several catalogs on Lamptech I found that GE didn't list a 35w HPS until 1980 and Sylvania didn't list one till 1982 meaning the fixture listed is most likely 1980 or newer. I think I'd agree with joseph that the sleeve on the wire is fiberglass. 2nd , If you DO decide to get the fixture and your really worried about the potential of asbestos , when the fixture arrives , wear a approved particle mask , unpack the fixture outside , wet the wire sleeve with water from a squirt bottle or equivalent , keep sleeve wet and disassemble the fixture , remove the sleeve(s) from the wire , wipe the wires with a wet cloth , discard sleeves , wet cloth outside and VIOLA ! No more problem .

 I've done MANY brake jobs on cars over the years and every manual I've ever seen says to not stir up any of the dust in and around the brakes , and to clean everything first with brake parts cleaner to remove loose dust and WEAR A MASK !!

 Automotive brakes are usually FULL of asbestos. I follow all of the rules and have never had an issue . In the end , if you're uncomfortable with the possibility of asbestos , then stay clear.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #9 on: November 18, 2020, 11:32:13 PM » Author: HPS_250
OK , 1st , the spec sheet included with the fixture lists a 35w HPS option . By looking through several catalogs on Lamptech I found that GE didn't list a 35w HPS until 1980 and Sylvania didn't list one till 1982 meaning the fixture listed is most likely 1980 or newer. I think I'd agree with joseph that the sleeve on the wire is fiberglass. 2nd , If you DO decide to get the fixture and your really worried about the potential of asbestos , when the fixture arrives , wear a approved particle mask , unpack the fixture outside , wet the wire sleeve with water from a squirt bottle or equivalent , keep sleeve wet and disassemble the fixture , remove the sleeve(s) from the wire , wipe the wires with a wet cloth , discard sleeves , wet cloth outside and VIOLA ! No more problem .

 I've done MANY brake jobs on cars over the years and every manual I've ever seen says to not stir up any of the dust in and around the brakes , and to clean everything first with brake parts cleaner to remove loose dust and WEAR A MASK !!

 Automotive brakes are usually FULL of asbestos. I follow all of the rules and have never had an issue . In the end , if you're uncomfortable with the possibility of asbestos , then stay clear.

If it is 1980 or newer, I’m sure I would be fine, but I just don’t want to risk it. Anyway, your idea seems like it would work! I guess I could always wear a mask and replace the wiring insulation outside. I would prefer to get a HPS version of this anyway, so I will probably just wait for one of those to be for sale.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #10 on: November 18, 2020, 11:40:06 PM » Author: Binarix128
For example here asbestos was banned in 2001, but it takes a couple of years to retire all asbestos products from the market, so if it was made in the early 80's there's still some risk.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #11 on: November 18, 2020, 11:45:16 PM » Author: wide-lite 1000
Asbestos was technically never banned in the U.S. !  :poof: However , very few items still actually use it .
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #12 on: November 18, 2020, 11:52:09 PM » Author: Binarix128
The world took a very long time to ban asbestos, the effects of it where discovered in the 40's I think.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #13 on: November 19, 2020, 12:52:53 AM » Author: HPS_250
If the effects of asbestos were discovered in the 1940s, it really crazy that they never completely banned it!  :o Still, I am not risking it for this fixture and will not be buying it. The money will go towards some GE Dichro-Color lamps probably.
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Re: Crouse Hinds 100w mercury vapor retrofit fixture, does it have asbestos wiring? « Reply #14 on: November 20, 2020, 12:33:22 PM » Author: joseph_125
I think the oldest this could conceivably be is 1981 as Crouse Hinds didn't get acquired by Cooper Industries until around 1981. As for asbestos concerns, I'd go with what wide-lite 1000 suggested to remove the sleeve. You can order replacement fibreglass sleeving from places like McMaster-Carr, Digi-Key if you're concerned about heat.

Surprisingly asbestos was only banned here around 2 years and they only stopped mining it in 2011. 
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