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Here it is. This is a very nice fixture, but does it contain asbestos wiring insulation? See the fifth photo where you can see some wiring for the power connection.
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I think fibreglass would be more a likely material for that sleeve. It seems too new (1980s) to have used asbestos wiring.
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I think fibreglass would be more a likely material for that sleeve. It seems too new (1980s) to have used asbestos wiring.
Thank you for confirming, I have been wanting to get one of these for a while but was worried. If this is from the 1980s I am fine.
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Can we be 100 percent sure that this has fiberglass insulation? I just don’t want to risk it for one fixture.
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It looks older than the 80's to me. I wouldn't risk myself for that fixture.
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From what I can see from the pictures, so long as the insulation isn't damaged it will probably be okay. That is if it is Asbestos.
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I wanna say that this is from the 1980's...but in the 1980's, HPS retrofits like this were the rage...so who knows?
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It could be 1980s, or it could be older. Unless I am completely sure that there is no asbestos, I have decided not to buy this.
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OK , 1st , the spec sheet included with the fixture lists a 35w HPS option . By looking through several catalogs on Lamptech I found that GE didn't list a 35w HPS until 1980 and Sylvania didn't list one till 1982 meaning the fixture listed is most likely 1980 or newer. I think I'd agree with joseph that the sleeve on the wire is fiberglass. 2nd , If you DO decide to get the fixture and your really worried about the potential of asbestos , when the fixture arrives , wear a approved particle mask , unpack the fixture outside , wet the wire sleeve with water from a squirt bottle or equivalent , keep sleeve wet and disassemble the fixture , remove the sleeve(s) from the wire , wipe the wires with a wet cloth , discard sleeves , wet cloth outside and VIOLA ! No more problem .
I've done MANY brake jobs on cars over the years and every manual I've ever seen says to not stir up any of the dust in and around the brakes , and to clean everything first with brake parts cleaner to remove loose dust and WEAR A MASK !!
Automotive brakes are usually FULL of asbestos. I follow all of the rules and have never had an issue . In the end , if you're uncomfortable with the possibility of asbestos , then stay clear.
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OK , 1st , the spec sheet included with the fixture lists a 35w HPS option . By looking through several catalogs on Lamptech I found that GE didn't list a 35w HPS until 1980 and Sylvania didn't list one till 1982 meaning the fixture listed is most likely 1980 or newer. I think I'd agree with joseph that the sleeve on the wire is fiberglass. 2nd , If you DO decide to get the fixture and your really worried about the potential of asbestos , when the fixture arrives , wear a approved particle mask , unpack the fixture outside , wet the wire sleeve with water from a squirt bottle or equivalent , keep sleeve wet and disassemble the fixture , remove the sleeve(s) from the wire , wipe the wires with a wet cloth , discard sleeves , wet cloth outside and VIOLA ! No more problem .
I've done MANY brake jobs on cars over the years and every manual I've ever seen says to not stir up any of the dust in and around the brakes , and to clean everything first with brake parts cleaner to remove loose dust and WEAR A MASK !!
Automotive brakes are usually FULL of asbestos. I follow all of the rules and have never had an issue . In the end , if you're uncomfortable with the possibility of asbestos , then stay clear.
If it is 1980 or newer, I’m sure I would be fine, but I just don’t want to risk it. Anyway, your idea seems like it would work! I guess I could always wear a mask and replace the wiring insulation outside. I would prefer to get a HPS version of this anyway, so I will probably just wait for one of those to be for sale.
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For example here asbestos was banned in 2001, but it takes a couple of years to retire all asbestos products from the market, so if it was made in the early 80's there's still some risk.
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Asbestos was technically never banned in the U.S. ! However , very few items still actually use it .
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The world took a very long time to ban asbestos, the effects of it where discovered in the 40's I think.
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If the effects of asbestos were discovered in the 1940s, it really crazy that they never completely banned it! Still, I am not risking it for this fixture and will not be buying it. The money will go towards some GE Dichro-Color lamps probably.
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I think the oldest this could conceivably be is 1981 as Crouse Hinds didn't get acquired by Cooper Industries until around 1981. As for asbestos concerns, I'd go with what wide-lite 1000 suggested to remove the sleeve. You can order replacement fibreglass sleeving from places like McMaster-Carr, Digi-Key if you're concerned about heat.
Surprisingly asbestos was only banned here around 2 years and they only stopped mining it in 2011.
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