Well given that they weigh a pound upwards I wouldn't want to take the chance 

Yeah that would hurt but depends on how high it falls, if its just 6 inches from your noggin i think you would be fine but the lamp hitting the floor would most definitely not. U.S. E26 sockets have to be able to handle 5 pounds of weight so i could hang a whole gear tray for a small hid lamp on one if i wanted to.

Yeah, that's why there were low wattage HPS lamp "adapters" here. HPS is the most common but I think some MV and MH ones were made with small NPF HX ballasts

Now I know why HID got its name - they HID from the LEDs! 

I wish I could hide from them, but they're everywhere now 

Yeah, that's why there were low wattage HPS lamp "adapters" here. HPS is the most common but I think some MV and MH ones were made with small NPF HX ballasts

Here's a 70w metal halide adapter but it's way too expensive IMO.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Dabmar-Lighting-P-HLD-96MH-Screw-in-Adapter-70W-MH-120V/715027860

I see that Walmart there still have a huge variety of lighting, Walmart (and practically all supermarkets) here barely have anything besides LED, even there's barely any variety among the LED products.

In my opinion, any lamp or fixture that comes from the far east is uncollectable, especially CFL and LED. I worked for a lighting contractor many years ago and saw this junk installed first hand. I grew to hate it...for its cheap build quality, performance, and short life. 

Yep, have been buying them cheap so far.  Use one in my garage right now and it helps with car repair.😁

LEDs, especially talking about residential "bulb" models had quite a fascinating evolution in the last ten years. They started with strange designs like the L-Prize lamp, then morphed themselves closer and closer to the familiar A23 shape, but retaining metal cooling fins, holes and air passages. Some tried purple chips instead of blue to increase CRI and efficiency. Some even had liquid filled glass envelopes to act as a coolant (Switch bulb), to more basic, ceramic heat transfer plates. And now it's full circle back to simple, gas-filled frosted or clear glass envelopes, in the same shape and weight as a standard incandescent!

You got to see engineers and designers come up with some eccentric, clever, downright wild solutions and designs to prevent overheating, increase efficiency, color rendering, power and even warm glow dimming. All of that in the span of what, barely a decade? If that isn't some lighting history witnessed during our lifetime, I don't know what is.


So yes, absolutely. An L-Prize Philips bulb, or a Switch bulb are feats of industrial design and engineering that I believe will in time have their place in a collection either private or public.

So yes, absolutely. An L-Prize Philips bulb, or a Switch bulb are feats of industrial design and engineering that I believe will in time have their place in a collection either private or public.

Not for me. I can't summon up any enthusiasm for a technology that has so radically displaced all others in such a short space of time. If we'd been given a choice, maybe. But we weren't, they were forced on us and now there is no alternative   

Well, we passed from good quality LEDs with metal heatsinks, DIP LEDs and ingenious ways of improving the CRI and the cooling to have crappy SMD leds from the far east in an aluminum substrate at the mercy of the air flowing there to cool them now. Instead of making the LEDs better they made them as cheap as possible at the the limit of being even usable and not actual factory dump. 

tl;dr LEDs passed from being a decent product to actual junk with dumpster materials in them like arsenic or lead.

LEDs, especially talking about residential "bulb" models had quite a fascinating evolution in the last ten years. They started with strange designs like the L-Prize lamp, then morphed themselves closer and closer to the familiar A23 shape, but retaining metal cooling fins, holes and air passages. Some tried purple chips instead of blue to increase CRI and efficiency. Some even had liquid filled glass envelopes to act as a coolant (Switch bulb), to more basic, ceramic heat transfer plates. And now it's full circle back to simple, gas-filled frosted or clear glass envelopes, in the same shape and weight as a standard incandescent!

You got to see engineers and designers come up with some eccentric, clever, downright wild solutions and designs to prevent overheating, increase efficiency, color rendering, power and even warm glow dimming. All of that in the span of what, barely a decade? If that isn't some lighting history witnessed during our lifetime, I don't know what is.


So yes, absolutely. An L-Prize Philips bulb, or a Switch bulb are feats of industrial design and engineering that I believe will in time have their place in a collection either private or public.

Your point is understood, and that may actually happen in a few years. Personally, I have no nostalgia for LED. My nostalgia is for mercury vapor, especially Westinghouse Lifeguard lamps, being that the utility where I grew up used them...so many fond memories of multi-shades of low CRI white light!

Not for me. I can't summon up any enthusiasm for a technology that has so radically displaced all others in such a short space of time. If we'd been given a choice, maybe. But we weren't, they were forced on us and now there is no alternative   

When you say there is "no choice," are you projecting yourself and what only you want to see, or are you including every consumer? Yes, as a lighting collector if you head on to a big box store with products aimed for the general public, you're gonna be disappointed, just like you wouldn't head to a new dealership to buy a classic car.

There is plenty of choice, you just have to find it. And it's not that hard. Just stop expecting boring store chains to carry stuff no one wants anymore. Amazon, eBay, support your local mom and pop to buy their old stock, and so on... I'm able to find 100W, 150W and even 15,000 hrs rated incandescents for next to nothing on eBay.

Well, we passed from good quality LEDs with metal heatsinks, DIP LEDs and ingenious ways of improving the CRI and the cooling to have crappy SMD leds from the far east in an aluminum substrate at the mercy of the air flowing there to cool them now. Instead of making the LEDs better they made them as cheap as possible at the the limit of being even usable and not actual factory dump. 

tl;dr LEDs passed from being a decent product to actual junk with dumpster materials in them like arsenic or lead.

Quality-made LEDs lights exist, you're just not willing to shell out the money for it. As with everything else, you get what you pay for.
You spend a miserable dollar on a 4-pack and you're like a deer in the headlights when they fail? Come on man.

Ok, I was too exaggerated there saying that all the LEDs are trash. My point is that there are less quality LEDs than back in the day.

But lemme guess... do all expensive LEDs worth their quality? There are expensive LEDs that worth, and you can perfectly get scammed even in trustable retails.