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CFLs that turn black « on: December 19, 2008, 09:37:45 PM » Author: lightman64
after a while, why do the actual tubing on a cfl turn blackish?
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #1 on: December 19, 2008, 11:41:49 PM » Author: Mr. Big
I've seen a few that did that, I had one that did that too, lasted for quite a long time after too!
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #2 on: December 20, 2008, 09:33:18 AM » Author: lightman64
iv'e had one that turned a little black on a timer for a while and it seems to work okay.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #3 on: December 26, 2008, 07:08:46 PM » Author: Mercury Man
CFLs seem to dim out over time, due to the slight blackening of the tube.  If you replace a CFL with a lot of hours on it with a brand new one of the same wattage, the light will be about 20% brighter!  I've noticed this with several CFLs from different manufacturers.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #4 on: December 26, 2008, 07:11:08 PM » Author: Foxtronix
The low diameter of the tube (T3 and now becoming T2) can explain a fast blackening. I also suppose that the high voltage pulse used to start the lamp makes a lot of sputerring from the electrodes.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #5 on: December 29, 2008, 05:36:41 PM » Author: lightman64

ok. but i thought only some cfls use high pulses of energy when the fist start; also i thought that this problem was being phased out.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #6 on: December 29, 2008, 06:14:24 PM » Author: Foxtronix
It's only a supposition. I don't know how the CFL gears works.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #7 on: December 29, 2008, 06:47:19 PM » Author: lightman64
thats ok ; i was just saying... ;)
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #8 on: January 14, 2009, 06:32:15 PM » Author: lightman64
i actually think that it is the sputter from the electrodes because mos cfls i use are instant start. this makes the electrodes sputter, kinda like on a MV lamp.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #9 on: January 14, 2009, 08:56:44 PM » Author: Foxtronix
That's why I believe that an high voltage pulse used to start the CFL...
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 09:43:39 PM » Author: form109
some of my Cfl's are programed start,i like those better than instant start.
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #11 on: January 15, 2009, 06:36:36 AM » Author: TudorWhiz
The current GE spirals that has "instant start" some of them seem to be more of a "quick programmed start"
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #12 on: January 15, 2009, 04:05:36 PM » Author: lightman64
that is exactly what happens. guess they got the wrong ballast!
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Re: CFLs that turn black « Reply #13 on: February 21, 2009, 04:17:50 PM » Author: lightman64
The newer cfls that are on the market don't blacken as quickly. I have a N:Vision EXDO-13 from about 3 years ago that is on every night in one of my porch lights (my 1st cfl) and it hasn't blackened yet. On the other hand i have a 4 or 5 year old EDSO-14 commercial electric that was the preivous model to the EXDO-13 and it is blackened from about 5 hrs of use per day compared to on all night with 3 years.
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