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Smart Devices and Big lighting « on: January 30, 2020, 06:01:35 PM » Author: F96T12 DD VHO
What do you guys think?
Oh and by big lighting, I mean Street lighting and stuff like that

is it a good idea or not, discuss below. Please no flame wars in this
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Re: Smart Devices and Big lighting « Reply #1 on: January 30, 2020, 09:37:43 PM » Author: 589
I think it would be nice to have a universal voltage insteon twist lock PC with 0-10v dimming and scheduling for starters. I like the low bandwidth long distance wireless mesh and powerline control networks. Being that I am highly interested in Networks in general it think it is a grand idea. RAB makes an interesting control system, lightcloud, too bad it is SaaS only and you can’t run your own instance on your own metal. As an aside I don’t like using smart devices dependent on software I can’t run and control myself(cloud only), unless it’s hackable. This is for privacy and security reasons, I’m looking at you RING. Just do a search and see the whoopsies and downright disturbing circumstances people who’ve had them have been in. That’s just ONE example of IoT gone wild. That’s why I’m highly interested in IoT that does not require internet access for the whole thing to work, examples being home assistant or openHAB along with Tasmota.
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Re: Smart Devices and Big lighting « Reply #2 on: January 31, 2020, 11:59:54 AM » Author: Ash
The control algorithm is very basic :

1. Switch the lighting from on to high light output as late as possible. (Maybe in some northern countries there is sense to switch into low output first, and only after some more time to high output. Over here it would make no sense)

2. Switch to low output at some late hour

3. Posibly : Switch back to high output at some early hour in the morning

4. Switch off as early as possible

The exact light levels and hours are not defined precisely - It is up to your judgement, which immediately means it have tolerances of at least +/- 10 Lux on the light levels or +/- 15 min on the time (and i'm being very conservative). There is no point in any more dimming settings than 2 discrete levels either

This very algorithm will work pretty much the same - whether it is implemented with 2-level dimming with taps on a magnetic ballast or switching off every other lantern, and a control cabinet consisting of 2 photocells, a time switch and some relay logic - vs. implemented with a networked node system with all the latest features

I'll take the relay implementation over the "smart" one for being simple, reliable, well suited for all luminaires with all types of lamps and gear, and not prone to any "vendor lock in games" with the "smart" system provider
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