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Hello dear sirs and madams!
I have got three vintage Osram HBO 200W/2 lamps on the way in the mail. NOS complete with even the original shipping cardboard box. Very nice find for just 100kr (about 10$-ish). I got them to simply admire the craftmanship, gaze upon the mercury in the arctube and get a nice display item.
But then i thought... Why not light them up? Getting the specialized ballasts these require would be extremely hard. Is there anyway i can light these up without (super) specialized equipment? Im on 230V mains. Any ideas?
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Not advisable to be honest, due to the high UV radiation output and very high internal pressure when hot, but the gear would have to be a set that delivers a low arc voltage, I think nominal is something like 57 volt ?
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Not advisable to be honest, due to the high UV radiation output and very high internal pressure when hot, but the gear would have to be a set that delivers a low arc voltage, I think nominal is something like 57 volt ?
Yes according to the Osram datasheet, 57V AC or DC. Could you not block out the UV with some hard glass? The pressure is my biggest concern, if a bulb like that shatters... My wife would be steaming mad at me!
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We ran a 250 watt ME mercury lamp at one of our meet ups once, (sadly I can’t show you the photos here as our other lighting forum won’t let me download my own photo for some reason) ![Huh? ???](/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ?, but we ran it on a 400 watt HPS ballast and all viewed it through a welding mask!, the arc was very interesting though, it had a plasma round it that looked like a green candle flame when running, quite a thing to see first hand!
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We ran a 250 watt ME mercury lamp at one of our meet ups once, (sadly I can’t show you the photos here as our other lighting forum won’t let me download my own photo for some reason) ?, but we ran it on a 400 watt HPS ballast and all viewed it through a welding mask!, the arc was very interesting though, it had a plasma round it that looked like a green candle flame when running, quite a thing to see first hand!
So how would one go about to run a 200W/2 HBO lamp with standard equipment?
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James would be the guy to ask, it was his idea to run the ME on a 400watt high pressure sodium ballast, probably the same gear would suffice? The problem is though, a HBO is a bare discharge tube, and the UV radiation would be more dangerous even if behind glass??
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I believe this would probably run fairly close to its design parameters on a 250W HPS circuit, with ignitor since there is no auxiliary ignition electrode in the 200W/2. It would be slightly under-run but that is no bad thing, to reduce its risk of explosion! Make sure to run it vertically though and with the long seal uppermost, and in a well ventilated area because there can be some ozone production during run-up.
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I believe this would probably run fairly close to its design parameters on a 250W HPS circuit, with ignitor since there is no auxiliary ignition electrode in the 200W/2. It would be slightly under-run but that is no bad thing, to reduce its risk of explosion! Make sure to run it vertically though and with the long seal uppermost, and in a well ventilated area because there can be some ozone production during run-up.
Thank you for the advise James. Would ordinary hard glass be enough to filter out the dangerous UV-radiation? Realistically, how big is the chance of explosion in these lamps, they have been stored in their NOS plastic boxes sice i assume late 70's or early 80's. So the chance of them having scratches and such in the glass is minimal.
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