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I have a 175w mercury ballast I want to add a cap to for better lamp power regulation.
What value do I need for the cap?
I believe the cap is hooked up between the lamp lead from the ballast and the lamp socket in series with the lamp right?
Finally, is there a chance this might not work with certain ballasts?
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nope...it WILL work....I have a HX ballast......and on it says optional capitor....the reason why he is asking is because I told him I had a HX ballast that said to make it HPF you can add an optional ballast!
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Okay Dave checked his M250R for me. It's wired the same as my NEMA ballast but has a cap between ballast output and lamp center contact. Cap is 13.5uf I believe...
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Some low wattage metal halide fixtures use HX ballasts equipped with capacitors. So you'll be fine.
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I've tried adding caps to a couple different hx-npf ballasts and for some reason the lamp has trouble warming up.
If I short the cap...same as removing it, lamp will warm up no problem...then put cap back in and lamp will stay bright. Line current will go from 3 amps or so down to 1.7.
I measured the starting current in lamp with cap to be about 2.2 amp...almost the same as with none. I warmed up a normal cwa lamp to full brightness 2 times while I did this experiment and the lamp in question was still only half bright. I'm puzzled as to why this is.
The most recent ballast I tried this on was from a cheapo 24 dollar security light from Lowes and the cap was 15 ufds.
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@SeanB: Yes, I forgot to mention the line caps. In the online ballast specs for Advance and a few other manufactures, they list a line cap as "optional" for reacter and HX-NPF ballasts on many of the circuits. I've seen some as high as 35 uf on the smaller wattage lamps. The starting current is still a little high...on my 175 watt NEMA head I used a 50 uf cap and lowered starting current from 5.5 amp down to 3.5 amp. And full run up current from 3 amp down to 1.8 amp.
Whether cap is series with lamp or parallel with supply, make sure cap voltage rating is higher than voltage being used in the application.
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I just need to find a cap now... Preferably one of those round plastic kind, it's going into my NEMA head with Advance ballast.
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I once mounted a plastic cap into a NEMA head and I think it gets a little too hot in there...after 100 hrs. or so the cap had cracks on it.
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That sounds about right it does get very hot in there
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I'm going to do some tests on a newer Cooper NEMA ballast with the cap in series with the lamp and parallel with the power to the ballast and see what happens. I will also test on my 1986 NEMA with Advance ballast...
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On my older ITT 175w NEMA head, I have the above mentioned 50uf cap remote mounted now...but that fixture is indoors. If I was mounting one outdoors with a cap, I would probably use an outdoor weatherproof box. It would connect to the white and red wire from photocell...if the cap stayed energized, especially big as 50uf, it would draw about 2 amps reactive power. Just a thought.
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