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T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « on: July 07, 2016, 04:00:21 AM » Author: Silverliner
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #1 on: July 07, 2016, 09:12:46 AM » Author: streetlight98
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #2 on: July 07, 2016, 09:56:30 AM » Author: Lumex120
Wow! And some awesome floor fans to go with it! Somebody needs to try and save those if this place ever gets demolished.
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #3 on: July 10, 2016, 12:14:08 AM » Author: nicksfans
There's a huge old tandem unit in this photo:

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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #4 on: July 10, 2016, 03:05:22 AM » Author: Solanaceae
I wonder if any of these are f65t17. 8) :o
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #5 on: July 11, 2016, 12:40:54 AM » Author: RyanF40T12
I love old abandoned buildings like that.  I like to go into them (when possible) and sit and reflect for awhile, trying to picture in my minds eye the activity that took place there. 
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #6 on: July 11, 2016, 12:44:05 AM » Author: tolivac
Not just lights and fans-how 'bout the commercial sewing machines--these can be worth a lot $$$$$ Surprized they left those machines.Those can be fixed up and last forever almost.The sew & vac place I go to for vacuums sometimes deals with commercial sewing machines.VERY ROBUST-some frequent home sewers get these.Tailers love them!Some quilters go for those,too.These commercail machines are all METAL-little or no plastic-the heads are heavy enough that two people may be needed to lift it onto a bench.They use a pumpted oil bath system.an oil sump under the machine head.Holds about a gallon of oil.A perculator like indicator on the top of the machine shows oil level and that it is circulating while the machine runs.
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #7 on: August 02, 2016, 11:36:37 AM » Author: DieselNut
Damn that is awesome!  I would LOVE to just snoop around the place!  Several I have seen have been "repurposed", and in the process, nearly everything is gutted out and trashed.  A couple breweries in the area are in old sewing mills and one huge cotton mill is now a giant antique mall.  I was able to get some lights out of that one during a remodel when it was still open.  Got my T17s from another old cotton mill that was being gutted and more lights years ago from the abandoned mill near Athens that burned last year.  We need to have a group effort to rescue these at this mill!
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #8 on: August 02, 2016, 09:01:18 PM » Author: nicksfans
Just noticed something in the photo I posted. The closest fixture has a pair of ribbons tied around it, presumably to keep lamps from falling out. ;D
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #9 on: August 02, 2016, 09:03:50 PM » Author: Lumex120
Does anybody know where this is?
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #10 on: August 06, 2016, 01:16:18 AM » Author: tolivac
Another thing to add-not just the lights,but the under table motors used to power the sewing machine heads are valueable,too,surprized here!!!Lots of good stuff in this place.Yes,the ribbons holding the bulbs in place on one fixture-sockets must be shot.A sad thing on the lights-probably PCB ballasts-disposing can be expensive-best bet is USE the lights until the ballasts die.Usually PCB cap ballasts last for--DECADES!!
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #11 on: August 08, 2016, 11:20:59 AM » Author: wishus
That clock hanging on the column is lush too!
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #12 on: August 08, 2016, 12:38:06 PM » Author: streetlight98
I wonder if they had any synchronized clock systems. I absolutely love those old Simplex synchronized clocks that were oh-so common in schools (and still are around here).
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Re: T17s in an abandoned clothing mill! « Reply #13 on: August 09, 2016, 07:18:24 PM » Author: ricksbulbs
OH-MY-GOD!!!!!! :o Those are EARLY T-17 units with the curved reflectors! This is a freaking GOLD MINE of F90T17's! I would $H1T myself in that place!  ;) In Philly,too, not all the far from me! I am DROOLIN'! I'll wager a bet that every darn ONE of these still work----the lower OCV of these ballasts makes them less prone to damage from moisture. Some of these may even have the simple choke 240 volt series sequence start ballast that runs the 2 lamps in series, using thermal starters! I bet alot of these have thermal starters, and some MAY have MAZDA brassenders, as often during the day they kept units off and the old lamps never failed. I used to work in a shirt factory in Cohoes, NY, so I know alot about these old mills, plus all out demo jobs. This shirt factory I worked in netted my 3 1939 Hygrade-Sylvania HF-100 units, as well as my mint 2 amp F96T8 unit from 1947, 100% original, and a few others! The place was lit by 8' sectional, in continuous rows of 3 or 4 sections each, over the machines exactly like these T-17's, but in continupus rows to the center main aisle, with machines on each side, and these were all WW2 era units with shallow channels and external TULAMP preheat ballasts, and I had them all singing like my 1963 Hammond C-3 organ with a Leslie 22-R speaker! I mean, when I got there they were in a bad state, working poorly, and I got them all working perfectly! Loved every MINUTE of it! I tried to get all the fixtures when the mill was rehabbed into apartments several years ago, but the greedy owner HAD to scrap them for the meager metal content! I was pissed on 1,000 levels believe me! By the way, I have several of the industrial sewing machines, I took when the shirt factory closed down in 1995, out in  shed out back. I picked the best ones. They are mostly 208-240 volt 3 phase. I have just 2 120 volt single phase clutch motors I took off other machines. They can be had if the price is right. I have a 1980's Singler boot maker machine in my basement that runs off a rare GE type RSA which is a repulsion-induction version of the common type SA split-phase "reverse" motor meaning that the squirrel cage sits still, and the windings, usually stationary, rotate, fed with 120 volts through a pair of radial concentric slip rings and brushes. The reason these SA motors made both by GE and Westinghouse (and GE's Fort Wayne Electric Works---FWEW) was that reversing the layout if the common split-phase squirrel cage induction motor improves power factor! I have a type RSC, I believe is is, or maybe a type KS---clutch motor, on a 1914 Dayton water pump, from FWEW, super rare! It has a bearing between the armature rotor and shaft, with a friction clutch like a car with a standard transmission has, that is engaged when the centrifugal mechanism operates to cut out the starting winding, simultaneously clutching the rotor to the shaft and starting the load. This is to compensate for the poor starting torque these motors possess, using speed and inertia of the rotor as it approaches full speed, to take up hard to start loads. These clutch motors are pretty far and few between these days, and are easy to identify----if the shaft seems to "slip" in the rotor when you turn the shaft, it's a gem! A real clutch motor! My FWEW is an early open model, 1/6 HP if I remember right, and one of a literal handful still existing! Anyway, a little motor info thrown in there as well for good measure! Man, I would give my left arm to go through this place with m permission to salvage those lights etc! In PA, people leave stuff alone--old buildings stay like this for decades. Here in NY, that place would be wrecked by vandals and anything metal light enough to be carried out by 2 men--sewing machines etc, would have been stolen for scrap metal! I would bet there is a stash of NOS lamps, ballasts and starters for these magnificent fixtures, and I would hoard them! Since these darn lamps are so hard to get, I'd be on them like a fly on fresh dog excrement! GOD--this is a beautiful scent to my eyes---I have seen these images so many times in the mills we demoed, but in hindsight, I wish we had saved and rehabbed them. The New World Order and the Globalist SCUM trying to take us over is why you see these sad scenes. It is starkly beautiful, but also makes me want to cry. Later, Rick "C-6" D!  :) :)
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