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"E" Shape vs "ED" Shape Envelopes? « on: January 04, 2026, 08:29:22 PM » Author: Multisubject
I was just looking up what the different ANSI lamp shape codes meant and came up with something weird. First of all I though "BT" was blown tubular, but it is actually bulged tubular. I feel like that rolls off the tongue less readily but whatever, not what I am talking about here. Here is my problem:

"E" stands for Ellipsoidal. "ED" stands for Ellipsoidal-Diffused. So the same as E, but diffused... That alone is weird to me, because we don't specify whether it is or isn't diffused in any other ANSI lamp shape code. There isn't any AD or BTD or PSD any of that crud.

Even more, E25 and ED18 are both similar elongated ellipsoidal shapes (the borderline-tubular shapes that I am not a huge fan of). Neither of these are diffused, despite the name of ED18 suggesting that it would be. That is because these rules are almost never ever followed for some reason. Barely anyone uses E to describe lamps, only ED, even when the lamps aren't diffused.

Why was a diffused version of the "E" code ever created, and why has E fallen out of favor for the incorrect use of ED to describe everything ellipsoidal, no matter it's translucency?
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Re: "E" Shape vs "ED" Shape Envelopes? « Reply #1 on: January 04, 2026, 10:12:35 PM » Author: Patrick
Where did you find it defined as Ellipsoidal-Diffused?  I've always heard that the D stood for Dimple or Dimpled.
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Re: "E" Shape vs "ED" Shape Envelopes? « Reply #2 on: January 05, 2026, 09:34:02 AM » Author: Multisubject
Holy crud you're right. Embarrassing. Makes sense now. :mrg:
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Re: "E" Shape vs "ED" Shape Envelopes? « Reply #3 on: January 06, 2026, 02:56:26 PM » Author: Ash
BT is a little ambigous as i have seen at least 3 different lamp shapes referred to as "BT" -

 - Elliptical shape, superimposed over T neck and top - Many Iwasaki lamps

 - Cylindrical central section, little bulged, superimposed over T neck and top - Typical US 100/175W Mercury lamps

 - Tubular shape (with rounded top), with one small bulged part in the center - Osram HQI-T and their Chinese clones

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Re: "E" Shape vs "ED" Shape Envelopes? « Reply #4 on: January 06, 2026, 03:12:04 PM » Author: Multisubject
@Ash
The elliptical shape superimposed on a T neck and top is what I traditionally think of with BT. Different sizes based on 1/8" as usual, commonly BT28, BT37, and BT56, but BT15 also exists and was used for some halogens, I am sure you have seen all of these.

That more cylindrical version common to 100/175W MV lamps is usually BT28 size, but I have also seen some rarer BT28s that look more normal, without sharp corners. Looking up "BT28 lamp" yields photos of both types of BT28 envelope. I personally am not huge fan of the less rare more cylindrical version that you are talking about, but it technically is still BT shape.

I have seen those tubular bulbs with only very small bulges with the HQI-BTs, I haven't seen any standard for that size. I haven't seen them referred as "BT##", just plain "BT". Unsure about the specifics there.
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