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HID, LPS, and preheat fluorescents forever!!!!!!
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| I have been seeing reports from some collectors that have been claiming that eBay has been starting to remove large numbers of listings for non-LED lighting. I have this feeling that in less than 10 years from now, non-LED light sources will become virtually impossible to find online due to websites forcing the removal of non-LED lamps. I have this feeling that this may mean that at some point, searching for vintage non-LED lamps, ballasts, and fixtures will become years-long efforts instead of months-long efforts. Lately, I have been seeing that lamps such as the H38AV-100/DX mercury vapor lamps have now become almost IMPOSSIBLE to find virtually OVERNIGHT. I recall how common they used to be not too long ago.
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Other loves are printers/scanners/copiers, A/Cs
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| I've noticed that HID lamps are very expensive at eBay, as well as their shipping.
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I"m don't speak English well, and rely on online translating to write in this site. Please forgive me if my choice of my words looks like offensive, while that isn't my intention.
I only working with the international date format (dd.mm.yyyy).
I lives in Israel, which is a 220-240V, 50hz country.
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| ... I literally just purchased another Thermo-Matic magnetic HPF R.S ballast from Ebay, just minutes ago. Hopefully this isn't true, since 95% of my living room lighting gear came from Ebay. Heck, that very rare cold temp HPF Trigger Start F15T12 single lamp strip fixture that I recently bought, came from Ebay. I do wonder... wouldn't Ebay see some sort of backlash from both buyers and sellers, if they banned the selling of lighting products that aren't LED? I'm willing to bet... HUGE backlash.
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Somewhere There Is Light(ning)
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I do wonder... wouldn't Ebay see some sort of backlash from both buyers and sellers, if they banned the selling of lighting products that aren't LED? I'm willing to bet... HUGE backlash. eBay could care less about the small sellers, and generic low-profit old stuff like fluorescent lighting. I honestly doubt there would even be much of a backlash...sure a few sellers & buyers would complain, but fact is these days, most of the 'general population' doesn't want anything to do with fluorescent lighting. If whats said here is true, eBay could be doing it because some places (Colorado for example) have banned the sale/import/manufacture/etc of basically anything fluorescent...and you could pretty much get around it buying on there.
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ThunderStorms/Lightning/Tornados are meant to be hunted down & watched...not hidden from in the basement!
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| I really hope this doesn't end up being the case. That would be incredibly depressing. I've stocked up really good in terms of fluorescent lighting and certain fixtures, but when it comes time to move on towards a larger home, and when it comes time to purchase lighting that I prefer even more than the lighting that I've got now, just knowing that it could be impossible to obtain it, would be very depressing. I think it's wrong of them to dictate what kind of lighting you can buy or sell... I understand that the majority of the common people favor LED's, but that should never mean that LED's be forced upon those who don't want to buy them. My next (and original) concern after that, of course, would be a law banning the use of lighting that is not LED.
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Interests: 1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent) 2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic 3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds 4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend
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| Unfortunately, even two years ago I got the hunch eBay was starting to phase out sales. At first they made it difficult to use the eBay global shipping centre to sell HID lamps to international customers (HID lamps that passed through there were flagged and rejected for shipment). But it seems like now even domestic sales are starting to be regulated.
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HID, LPS, and preheat fluorescents forever!!!!!!
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| I have this feeling that non-LED lamps might become exponentially rarer and more expensive to purchase as a result of sellers being banned from shipping non-LED lamps and fixtures because I feel that they will be forced to recycle their lamps, ballasts and fixtures.
I have this feeling that the cheapest non-LED light bulbs will eventually cost something like many thousands of dollars a piece as a result of pressure to recycle new old stock lamps rapidly to the point that they will become virtually unobtainium.
For example, a single F40T12 tube might start costing as much as $50,000 USD or a single 400W H33 mercury vapor lamp might cost somewhere around $500,000 to $1,000,000 USD due to rapidly increasing rarity from forced recycling of new old stock lamps.
Lately, I have also been dealing with cases where some Japanese proxy shopping services have blocked the shipment of some fluorescent lamps that I purchased a few days ago. So far, I have been in the process of stocking up on some fluorescent lamps and will see if they will go through this time on another Japanese proxy shopping service that I have been using.
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« Last Edit: March 01, 2026, 12:42:27 AM by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA »
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Desire to collect various light bulbs (especially HID), control gear, and fixtures from around the world.
DISCLAIMER: THE EXPERIMENTS THAT I CONDUCT INVOLVING UNUSUAL LAMP/BALLAST COMBINATIONS SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INJURIES.
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| OK, now I doubt that non-LED lamps will ever become that expensive. Chances are a new, better lighting technology will come around before non-LED lamps will become that expensive, and maybe then us lighting collectors will start collecting LED stuff.
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| Simple way around all of this . List your "Contraband Lighting" by using vague generic terms that the eBay A.I. sensors won't catch !
EXAMPLES I'VE SEEN : Incande$cent , "not LED" , high intensity lightbulb , lightbulb , tube light , light .
As for the extrodinarily high prices , NEVER GONNA HAPPEN !! All that is is fear mongering ! NO ONE will list something for a crazy price like that knowing damn good and well that NO ONE WILL PAY IT !!
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| Could part numbers also be a potential work around this?
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Interests: 1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent) 2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic 3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds 4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend
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| Part numbers will be hard for buyers to find
"Lamp light 40W CCT 4000K G13 1.5 inch high frequency instant start compatible 50Hz 60Hz rapid start compatible save 80% electricity home office garage factory shop" is probably good enough
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I've noticed this as well with the lack of listings. Ebay really seems to push the cheap Chinese LED lamps and fixtures as "suggested" though, seems like one of every three listings is an ad for one of those. This has to be annoying for the sellers...just don't understand the whole point of it all. I probably wouldn't hate LEDs as much if they weren't being forced on me so hard. 
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MAXIMUM LUMENS!!!
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| Yes, the "suggested" lamps are there because the sellers paid to boost the listings.
As for insane prices, tell me: how much does a carbon filament lamp cost? They haven't been produced since the '40s or '50s and they have been banned for a couple years now.
It comes down to simple economics, my friend: supply is low, but demand is also low, the price will remain low. The price would only skyrocket if everyone suddenly decided they wanted to transition back to MV and such, in which case they would probably start producing them again.
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@suzukir122, I often rely on part numbers myself such as “FC8T9/CW” when I want a halophosphate 22W T9 circline fluorescent lamp.
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DISCLAIMER: THE EXPERIMENTS THAT I CONDUCT INVOLVING UNUSUAL LAMP/BALLAST COMBINATIONS SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INJURIES.
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| I’ve noticed lately, maybe in the last 6 months or so that any lamp that is NOT LED, for sale on the UK eBay has become expensive.
PL-S 5w, 7w, 9w and 11w lamps have shot up in price from around £2.50 a lamp to near £7.00 per lamp in some cases. Same with fluorescent tubes they have shot up to £20-£30 per T8 tube in some listings. Even starter switches they are almost £5 each now where as 10 years ago you could get one for £0.50p. This doesn’t seem to be down to greed, it’s more about making LED stuff cheaper to buy than fluorescent as for the price of one fluorescent tube you could get a whole LED fixture to replace it with, for less! so it’s forced upon us.
8w T5 tubes are one that I’ve noticed a massive price hike in as well as the PL-S
SOX LPS lamps too, looking at a minimum of £45 for a 35w and I’ve seen them as high as £179 a lamp!
It’s the same for CFLs they’ve shot up in price too.
HPS SON lamps is one lamp that doesn’t seem to have changed much price wise in the last 10 years or so. They’re still virtually the same!
Danny
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