Author Topic: Why do some metal halide lamps have barium getters?  (Read 519 times)
WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Member
*****
Offline

Gender: Male
View Posts
View Gallery

HID, LPS, and preheat fluorescents forever!!!!!!


Worldwide HIDCollectorUSA
Why do some metal halide lamps have barium getters? « on: May 12, 2024, 10:46:01 PM » Author: WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
After knowing that most high pressure sodium lamps have barium getters near the base of the lamp, I have noticed that some quartz metal halide lamps such as the GE/Tungsram Kolorarc and some Osram HQI-T lamps have them, but also some ceramic metal halide lamps such as some Philips MasterColor lamps and some Iwasaki Cera Arc lamps have barium getters.

Why were barium getters often added to certain quartz and ceramic metal halide lamps?
Logged

Desire to collect various light bulbs (especially HID), control gear, and fixtures from around the world.

DISCLAIMER: THE EXPERIMENTS THAT I CONDUCT INVOLVING UNUSUAL LAMP/BALLAST COMBINATIONS SHOULD NOT BE ATTEMPTED UNLESS YOU HAVE THE PROPER KNOWLEDGE. I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY INJURIES.

Medved
Member
*****
Offline

Gender: Male
View Posts
View Gallery

Re: Why do some metal halide lamps have barium getters? « Reply #1 on: May 13, 2024, 04:56:16 AM » Author: Medved
It depends if the lamp is designed with vacuum vs gas (and then exactly which gas) filled outer.
With vacuum (lower power, ceramic,...), it quite makes sense to use there...
Logged

No more selfballasted c***

suzukir122
Member
*****
Offline

Gender: Male
View Posts
View Gallery


suzukir123
Re: Why do some metal halide lamps have barium getters? « Reply #2 on: May 16, 2024, 12:11:32 PM » Author: suzukir122
Just out of curiosity, what's a barium getter?
Logged

Interests:
1. Motorcycles, Cars, Women, and Lighting (especially fluorescent)
2. Weightlifting/staying extremely athletic
3. Severe Thunderstorms of all kinds
4. Food and drinks. So gimme them bbq ribs
Lighting has ALWAYS been a passion of mine. I consider everyone on here to be a friend

Medved
Member
*****
Offline

Gender: Male
View Posts
View Gallery

Re: Why do some metal halide lamps have barium getters? « Reply #3 on: May 17, 2024, 01:46:52 AM » Author: Medved
"getter" is a chemical intended to absorb atoms and molecules contaminating fill of sealed structures.
On incandescents a red phosphorus was used to absorb any remaining traces of moisture from the lamp internal atmosphere.

A barium is used to absorb mainly oxygen mainly in vacuum devices - in vacuum tubes it use to have the form of a coating on the glass surface, applied by evaporating the pellet containing Ba after the tube was evacuated (either heating the cup with Ba pellet with laser, or earlier filling thin tube by the BA, welding this tube into a loop and then firing it by an induction heater so thethin tube bursts releasing the Ba) and letting it condense on the tube glass wall. During this it reacts with most of the remaining air in the tube, but then the coating on the glass was absorbing the gasses that got released from the internal materials over the lifetime, so helps to maintain the good vacuum there. It became the characteristic mirror-like finish on the top of the tubes. You may find the same form also in some Na lamp outer bulbs - usually the mirory like patches around the bulb base.

On discharge outer bulbs the vacuum does not have to be that good, but the "mirror like" form was unwanted (as it obstructs light, or even reacts with the IR reflector coating on SOX), it is just put into a cup welded on some stem wire and let it act from there.
Logged

No more selfballasted c***

Print 
© 2005-2024 Lighting-Gallery.net | SMF 2.0.19 | SMF © 2021, Simple Machines | Terms and Policies