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Incandescent Bulbs Return to the Cutting Edge « on: July 08, 2009, 07:16:29 AM » Author: rjluna2
I thought this article might be interesting that could delay incandescent bulb ban.

You can read the full article at http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/06/business/energy-environment/06bulbs.html?_r=1&sq=incandescent%20bulb&st=cse&scp=2&pagewanted=all

Perhaps the old fashioned bulb could be here to stay....
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Re: Incandescent Bulbs Return to the Cutting Edge « Reply #1 on: July 08, 2009, 12:06:13 PM » Author: Medved
At first this technology is not as new as the text claim - GE is selling them here about a year in the 230V R7s halogen format, OSRAM for more then 3 years in the 12V capsule and MR format under the name "IRC", Philips uses it in their integrated ballast + 12V capsule (allready long time featured somewhere on the LG), all having efficiency gain at about 30% with about 3000hours lifetime, so easy modification might bring their efficacy further (about 15%) up with still acceptable 1500hours lifetime (on 12V versions it is very easy by using modified ballast - using ~14..15V iso 12V and bulb with one step lower nominal wattage).

At second, the coating filter out some part of visible spectrum, so the light quality (one of mostly used arguments in favor of incandescents) suffer(the CRI is not 100) anymore, i bet fluorescents would be the same (assume high CRI models, for sure not those used in CFL).

At third incandescents are efficacy wise the worst source for dimming applications - second mostly used arguments for incandescents.
Best are LED's (efficacy slightly rise and lifetime steeply prolong when dimmed, due to lower operating temperature, but their color quality or efficacy are not as good), second best flourescents (you have to keep filaments on constant operating temperature, what consume power correlated to rated and not operating wattage, life is quite independent on dimming, assume well designed ballast), then HID's (color shift, limitted range, shortened lifetime, lower efficacy) and only then incandescents (the efficacy goes steeply down, large color shift)
What is missing are fluorescent ballast dimmable via "regular" dimmer-switch (the simplest house wiring)

The thrid argument used in favor of incandescents - frequent switching - was allready solved quite some time ago by programmed start ballast designs with voltage mode heater supply, available even in CFL format (OSRAM "Facility" line). Using such ballasts with low oerating temperature lamps would eliminate even the full brightness runup time - but this excludes CFL format.
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Re: Incandescent Bulbs Return to the Cutting Edge « Reply #2 on: July 17, 2009, 03:22:35 PM » Author: lightman64
I saw this in the Atlanta Journal Constitution! It doesn't seem like a bad idea, but I don't like Philips Halogena's which was what was in the picture.
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Re: Incandescent Bulbs Return to the Cutting Edge « Reply #3 on: July 17, 2009, 08:25:02 PM » Author: Silverliner
I have a cheaper Philips version called the EcoVantage. It uses a conventional single ended halogen capsule except it has a xenon-krypton fill gas. Very nice whiter and brighter light than standard incandescents, and more durable than the Philips Energy Saver Halogenas (these use halogen infrared technology, which is suspectible to hot shock). The EcoVantage bulbs are available on Amazon.com, 2 bulbs for $2.50 to $6, depending on wattage and finish (soft white or natural light).
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Re: Incandescent Bulbs Return to the Cutting Edge « Reply #4 on: July 18, 2009, 09:43:43 AM » Author: bluelights
Could someone tell me if this is true?

"The U.S. Department of Energy is also currently developing a filament lamp at Sandia National Laboratories with improved efficiency from 5% to 60%."

from Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incandescent_light_bulb )
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Re: Incandescent Bulbs Return to the Cutting Edge « Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 04:25:37 PM » Author: rjluna2
I saw this in the Atlanta Journal Constitution! It doesn't seem like a bad idea, but I don't like Philips Halogena's which was what was in the picture.

That is exactly how I got that article.  I had to use the direct source from the web page that linked to the article I found.
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