Hello,

Recently I've been finding out from Philips fixture from which Country they originally Originate from, for example, The HGS201 from Greece Philips, Philips Malaga 1 from France Philips, bla bla bla
...

I just wanted to know where do these fixtures originally come from, as I just cannot find out:

-Philips Sgs203 and Sgs204:

-Philips Trafficvision

-Philips Malaga 2 (Sgs103, Sgs104)

-Philips Iridium (it's either France Or Poland, but not sure)


Any answer would be helpful 👍

Why Eu:YPV isn't used in CFLs and triphosphors fluorescents instead of the red Eu:YOX? Yttrium vanadate have better red emission than Eu:YOX.

Though, No one would probably miss me if I left, a unpopular guy who's interested in a part of lighting who no one really much cares about...

Nah don’t say that! You are one of the coolest on this site! I mean, more people like Polish than Belgian! Plus if you left I would be very sad, to be honest I would be sad if anyone left, one of the reasons why I created this post, but I’d be extra sad for you especially!   

If Micheal or I would be missed you would be missed that’s basically how I would put it.

TBH if I the shadow Rhombaloux with the Yellow background were to disappear from the site, I’m not going to be as missed Micheal because he’s been on here way more than a year!

What did you post?, haven’t been on LG for a while and this one was the first I came across? 😃

Aight so you go on to Modern in the Lanterns section of the Forum, then you look for Belgian Lighting Information Board, you know what I’ll just give you a link https://www.lighting-gallery.net/index.php?topic=18978.0 give it a good read! I spent hard work on it!

 I still say it has to do with the local of both the seller and buyer . I still see plenty of MV listings on eBay . Plus , as I thought , several sellers are listing their MV lamps using creative wording such as high intersity lamp , vapor lamp , large old bulb ,Incande$cent , etc .

 The USPS has toughened their rules for shipping mercury related items , my way around it is when asked "anything liquid , fragile ,flammable , glass or mercury ?" I answer "yes , fragile glass , it's an vintage lightbulb . Never had even a second look ! I've even shipped mercury lamps overseas to countries with strict mercury bans with no problems.by simply putting old light bulb on trhe customs form .

 There ARE ways around all of this if the sellers actually put some effort into it ! 

@Emersyn - I see the Hg symbol now. Though to me it almost looks like part of the H0 date code with the image compression making it appear as though there’s a circle around it. It is difficult to make out the smaller details in the current image, do you have a better quality one you could share by chance?

I did a search to see if I could find any other examples of this lamp online, couldn’t find any. Unfortunately, this is probably so rare that it isn’t documented anywhere online. You really have to wonder where this sort of stuff comes from. I don’t think this is the first time I’ve seen a lamp not listed in a company’s catalog (it doesn’t seem as though the catalogs are always all-encompassing, even though they really should be). Granted, I’ve never ordered anything professionally and I don’t entirely know how things work as far as that goes, but I’d think that if a product is not listed in the catalog, no one would know that it is available and thus won’t order it.

Assuming this lamp is some type of a foreign/export lamp, is there really anything stopping it being from 2020? The wear would certainly point more towards it being from 2010, but maybe it’s a really crap quality legacy lamp that was still being made for some random country using old machinery/manufacturing processes (so it still has an old etch even in 2020).

Yeah I thought they would have too, but if you look in the top photo you can just barely make out some of it.

Based on the fact it's a school, they probably wouldn't have special lamps so I'm also really confused. Maybe it was like a product they still made but just didn't feel like advertising?

Also the lamp next to it is a TL-741 too that looks newer than 2014 and doesn't look like it has an American etch... These are some odd lamps!

That is very weird. I always thought they had pretty much phased out the non-Alto versions of these non-specialty lamps by the early 2000s. Are you sure it had the Hg symbol? If this was made in 2010, then it must have been a very obscure special order thing. I can’t find a non-Alto F32T8/TL741 in either the 2004 or 2011 catalogs.

Edit: Slim chance, but is it possible this was made for another country? I looked in a couple of Mexico/Central America Philips catalogs from the early 2010s and couldn’t find a non-Alto F32T8/TL741. The fact that it has the E symbol also suggests that it was made for the North American market, but you never know.

Very interesting read and history 👍, thanks for posting 😎

Thank you very much!

@WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA, this is very true and a lot of sellers don't do this, even when it's easy to see that the lamp is used.