71   Lamps / Modern / Re: Retrofit sodium lamp questions...  on: April 23, 2026, 09:04:55 PM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by Multisubject
@WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
Thanks! Yup I just looked into those and you are right, I added them to the list.
 72   Lamps / Modern / Re: Retrofit sodium lamp questions...  on: April 23, 2026, 08:57:49 PM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by WorldwideHIDCollectorUSA
I am also aware of the Philips Retrolux high pressure sodium retrofit lamps and CEW retro ace high pressure sodium retrofit lamps being CWA compatible too.

Additionally, I am also aware of the Westinghouse and Philips Econolux high pressure sodium retrofit lamps being incompatible with CWA ballasts too.
 73   Lamps / Modern / Re: Retrofit sodium lamp questions...  on: April 23, 2026, 08:55:05 PM 
Started by Multisubject - Last post by Multisubject
To the best of my knowledge this is a list of all semi-common HPS retrofit lamps that are/are not compatible with CWA ballasts:

Compatible with CWA:
- Eye Sunlux Super Ace (LC)
- Eye Sunlux Ultra Ace (CE)
- CEW Retro Ace
- Philips Retrolux

Not compatible with CWA:
- Eye Sunlux Ace (LX)
- Eye Sunlux LS
- Sylvania Unalux
- GE E-Z Lux
- Philips/Westinghouse Econolux

I'll keep a list handy of these lamps just to keep track just cause there are too many to remember.
 74   Lanterns/Fixtures / Modern / Re: GE M400R2 Datasheet  on: April 23, 2026, 06:31:46 PM 
Started by NeXe Lights - Last post by GE PM
Here you go!
 75   Lanterns/Fixtures / Modern / GE M400R2 Datasheet  on: April 22, 2026, 08:16:08 PM 
Started by NeXe Lights - Last post by NeXe Lights
Would anyone happen to have a datasheet for a 1990s and on GE M4RC/M400R2? One that uses the ordering scheme like pictured in the image.
 76   Lanterns/Fixtures / Modern / Re: What is this ???  on: April 22, 2026, 11:25:39 AM 
Started by wide-lite 1000 - Last post by SussexEuroSOX
Oh cool @Baked bagel 11
 78   General / General Discussion / Re: What did you do today lighting wise?  on: April 21, 2026, 09:40:34 PM 
Started by RyanF40T12 - Last post by suzukir122
Just obtained my two F20T12 Grey end capped Philips lamps, and my Sylvania GTE lamp, all three Halophosphate Cool White.
Swapped out both of the LPF Trigger Start ballasts that came with the F20T12 fixtures I've got, for the cold temp versions, successfully.
I was in the middle of comparing the brightness levels of the LPF and HPF ballasts at one point though, but that was short lived... found
out the hard way that not only are both of my F20T12 Philips lamps used, one of them was actually right at EOL. The end blackening did not
indicate this, but then again, both lamps have electrode filament shield guards.
The lamp that went EOL was actually on my HPF Trigger Start ballast as it did so. Rough start up, with very bright filament glow as soon as
the lamp fired up successfully. The filament hotspot glow disappeared for a while, so I automatically assumed it was a broken filament. Wrong...
the filament was still intact but completely spent... so, complete hotspot movement occurred, the end blackened completely, and the lamp went EOL.
Brilliant orange flashing at the bad end as expected... but it dimmed down to start-up stage, just like any other HPF Rapid Start ballast. Not much
flash with this lamp.
Switched the EOL lamp over to the LPF ballast and not surprisingly, it just sits there and rectifies... nothing more.
To my surprise, the brightness level of the LPF Trigger Start ballast was almost comparable to the HPF cold temp Trigger Start ballast, but of
course, the HPF one was still a tad bit brighter.
 79   Lamps / Modern / Re: What are the common failure modes of SOX lamps?  on: April 21, 2026, 09:34:03 PM 
Started by HPS4Ever425120 - Last post by Multisubject
Electrode depletion is a possible EOL. Another failure is if the glass walls absorb too much argon, which prevents it from striking. Other times it could start "distilling", where some places of the discharge tube lose sodium and therefore get hotter, which repels more sodium away. Or they could start to leak sodium into the outer envelope. But yeah electrode depletion is probably the most common as far as I am aware.

Most SOX lamps are rated for 18,000 hours, so supposing you run it for 12 hours a day it would last over four years. I assume you are running it less than that, so probably a lot longer than 4 years. Though many different factors play into the lamp's actual lifespan, so who knows. I am sure someone else can chime in on the specifics of that.
 80   Lamps / Modern / What are the common failure modes of SOX lamps?  on: April 21, 2026, 08:40:51 PM 
Started by HPS4Ever425120 - Last post by HPS4Ever425120
Hi!

I know the failure modes of HPS lamps (cycling, sodium loss, etc.) but I don't know how SOX lamps typically fail, since they work more like a fluorescent tube and contain lots of sodium. My only guess is eventual electrode depletion, but I don't know what that translates to in a well used or EOL SOX lamp. Suppose I have a brand new SOX lamp, run for a few hours a week, how long do you think it may last?
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